That city they were in kinda reminded me of Blade Runner. Very cool visuals in that episode, but I agree with most of you guys. That was definitely more of a filler episode. Can't believe we're halfway through the series already. Not sure if they can wrap all of this up in just 3 episodes, but I guess we'll see.
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Thor is in space 60 years in the past with the GotG and has no idea Loki is alive
Mobius and the TVA has no intentions of saving Loki if Sylvie is dying too
cant we just accept the next 3 eps would be a classic British Sitcom starring Tom Hiddleston, Sophia Di Martino and guess starring Rowan Atkinson on the dying planet?
Also, why was Loki, who escaped with the tesseract, was able to teleport, yet when he got tossed out of the train, was not able to teleport himself back on the train or onto the arc?
That depends the TVA stated that Loki stealing the space stone creating the variance not the avengers incursion. So the action of going further back in time to get a Space Stone was a variant event that eventually gets corrected when Rogers goes back and drops of the stones back where they came from.
The infinity stones from the past also worked in the MCU timeline which either means the comic book “stones don’t work in other multiverses” doesn’t hold or the stones taken from the Avenegers 1 time jump work in the Sacred timeline.
Therefore the Space Stone Loki stole from the Avengers should function on the Sacred timeline because the time stone stolen from the same time also worked.
I would think any stones in the TVA's possession are dead permanently. Stones are tied to the reality of the timeline they came from. Since the Endgame stones came from the sacred timeline which were replaced after or the 2014 Thanos timeline which are sanctioned by the time keepers as being "supposed" to happen, those stones still work. The ones in the drawer at the TVA are from pruned timelines that never made it past redline and no longer exist so will have no reality from which to draw any power.
If that wasn't the case, you'd probably have tons of rogue variant TVA agents all over the place with dozens of infinity stones.
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Also, why was Loki, who escaped with the tesseract, was able to teleport, yet when he got tossed out of the train, was not able to teleport himself back on the train or onto the arc?
Cuz the Tesseract/Space Stone i.e. how Loki teleports, was the first thing taken away from Loki when the TVA arrested him and it no longer works being used as a paperweight in Casey's drawer
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I'm pretty sure the stones used at the end of Infinity War and Endgame are (supposed to be) the same Sacred Timeline stones. The Avengers just move back and forth in the Sacred Timeline, they (supposedly) don't go to different timelines. Or that's the idea behind taking the stones back in time at the end of Endgame.
Let's be clear though, this isn't hard sci-fi, there's always quite a bit of handwavium used on the MCU plots
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I'm guessing Loki has Sylvie enchanted and they don't need to escape. There are multiple points it could have happened like when Sylvie tried to enchant Loki and it just failed on him or when Sylvie says "she can't fall asleep in a place like this" then immediately falls asleep afterwards.
I think it's the other way around. I think that Sylvie was actually successful at enchanting Loki and everything from the train onwards is an illusion she's made for him to try and figure ... something ... out. I think she wants to recruit him to her plan but wants to understand him better first.
I think that episode four here is going to be Sylvie revealing why she's trying to destroy the Time Keepers and we close out Act 2 with the two of them heading back to the TVA to execute her plan.
I like the illusion theory. The other theories I've heard are that Mobius will uncover the truth about the TVA and save them or there is yet another Loki out there that will use the bi frost.
Just over 6 hours to go. Stupid Disney making us wait a week for a very bingeable show.
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Was so pissed that Mobius got pruned!!! Glad I stuck around for the mid credits scene.... So it seems like pruning just puts them in a cosmic dumping ground for reject variants including low budget cosplay Loki? lol
Wonder what happens with the TVA now their workforce is going to go all rogue on them?
I see the reason that they had such little plot development in the last episode was because they decided to jam twice as much into the latest one. Now I legitimately wonder how they're going to jam as much plot resolution as required into two episodes.
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I assume next episode will be 50% Ravonna spilling the beans to Sophie and 50% Hiddleston having an adventure in Loki land (which I assume is actually a parallel timeline hidden from TVA underlings) with the true history of the TVA being revealed and a revelation at the end of who the true big bad is (and I have no idea who that is going to be... I kind of suspect that it'll be yet another Loki or maybe Kang.
This is easily the best Marvel show they've made thus far. I have high hopes for She-Hulk and Armor Wars because of Maslany and Cheadle but this one is going to be really hard to top.
I see the reason that they had such little plot development in the last episode was because they decided to jam twice as much into the latest one. Now I legitimately wonder how they're going to jam as much plot resolution as required into two episodes.
Oh I don't know. There really isn't that much plot left unresolved. "Who's really behind the TVA" basically.
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I'm guessing we'll get our first glimpse of Kang the Conqueror.
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Also, I'm still kind of hoping to see a Retroactive Cannon in action, because I kinda love the joke that there's an actual retconning machine in the Marvel universe called a Ret-Can
(In the comics they're kind of the Big Guns of the TVA.
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Do we think Owen Wilson is really gone? Seems like a pretty big name to get borderline red-shirted in the 4th episode. Maybe him and Hiddleston's Loki meet up in "pruned-land" and escape. Alternatively, maybe the Mobius that got pruned was a projection Loki made? Either way it doesn't seem likely we've seen the last of Wilson here.
I agree that was way better than episode 3. This does seem like an obvious setup for Strange and the multiverse though. Assuming the TVA unravels here.
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Best piece of post End Game Marvel so far. The scene at the RoxxMart had a very Blade Runner esque feel too it. I wasn’t sure about Sylvie in the previous episode but loved her here. Sad to see Mobius gone, but something tells me we see him on a jet ski before the end. Very surprised by the “death” at the end.
Excited to see how this finishes.
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Oh I don't know. There really isn't that much plot left unresolved. "Who's really behind the TVA" basically.
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I'm think that too, but I don't think he is behind it.
So there was 1 in 14,000,000 timelines where Thanos lost. So we know multiple timelines exist, so why aren't they all pruned? How could Dr. Strange see them all?
If I was anti-Thanos and in charge of the TVA, I would prune every event in the timeline that led to one of the failures, so they only timeline left, the "Sacred Timeline" would be the one where the rat brings Ant-man back, ensuring the Avengers victory.
If I was anti-Kang, like maybe Immortus, and had power over time, I might also create the TVA to "prune" all timelines that led to Kang the Conqueror destroying everything and leave only the timeline that resulted in his loss (or non-existense). I wouldn't be evil per say, not disintegrating people, but needing them out of the timeline that would bring Kang to power.
I wouldn't need to prune every timeline, only those nexus events that will eventually lead to Kang. And apparently, Loki is center to a lot of nexus events that lead to Kang. Including this one.
I can totally see the set up to the TVA being evil, Loki being the anti-hero and shutting them down. Only to discover in the end, that by doing so, they stopped the only thing holding Kang back and allow a timeline to occur which will unleash Kang upon the MCU.
But I was all over the place with WandaVision speculation, so Imma just enjoy what they give me, cause its been the best so far.
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