I'm not too read up on pop culture but the whole Meghan thing is basically he said she said as far as I can tell. Truth is probably in the middle, like usual.
My point is, like Maritime Q-Scout said, your over-exaggeration is what I'm poking fun at. That's what's gonna make people tune out even if everything you're saying is true. Ranting and raving isn't the way to get people to agree with you.
But at least you're not pretending to not know who DMX is like some people in this thread. That's just shameful
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I'm not hating on the extended family, I'm very clearly not going after Meghan. But the Queen and the palace, you know the monarch being discussed, have had complete opposite reaction and I don't know why we can't call them out for it.
Andrew gets accused by multiple women of raping them, his name shows up hundreds of times during the trial for Epstein, everyone knows he is guilty, and the palace "empathetically denies all allegations".
Meghan, after leaving the royal family as a working member no less, is accused by two former staff of being mean. The palace is "very concerned by the allegations" going so far as hiring an external law firm to conduct an investigation.
It's pretty appalling double standard, not sure why anyone would disagree.
Actually....no.
This thread is about a man who died yesterday at age 99 who lived a remarkable life.
If anything you prove the exact point I was making. Like I said, anything less than lizard people will have people defending them.
Even when there's a well known pedophile (or ephebophile so we don't need another poster to chime in with another "####ing a 15 year old isn't pedophilia" lol), and the family protects and he continues to remain a prince with full titles while another prince is having his titles and honours removed because the rest of the family is toxic, we're still trying to make them not sound so bad. "They aren't all pedophiles, those that aren't are only okay defending pedophiles within their family". Cool, great argument lol.
I'm not too read up on pop culture but the whole Meghan thing is basically he said she said as far as I can tell. Truth is probably in the middle, like usual.
My point is, like Maritime Q-Scout said, your over-exaggeration is what I'm poking fun at. That's what's gonna make people tune out even if everything you're saying is true. Ranting and raving isn't the way to get people to agree with you.
But at least you're not pretending to not know who DMX is like some people in this thread. That's just shameful
A grandparent or parent not selling their grandson or son down the river is understandable.
Is that supporting pedophilia or child/grandchild.
I'll admit I don't know the ins and outs of the Prince Andrew allegations. But I'd bet most don't either, and thus calling his grandmother a pedophile and/or supporting pedophilia is a stretch to most people and it looks like you're painting the entire family with the brush of a cousin of the royal line.
All I'm saying is don't exaggerate and paint the entire family with the same brush.
If you want to make the allocation that everyone in the Royal Family supports pedophilia (which is different than supporting a family member) then that's fine, provided you support that claim, otherwise the baseless allocation or allocation by blood relation really hurts your argument.
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Does anyone have a reliable source whether or not Canada contributes tax dollars to the monarchy and how much? Doing a search of my own i’m getting both yes we do and no we don’t.
Either way. Living in Canada i’m good with the monarchy. It’s part of our history and partly what separated is from the americans.
Does anyone have a reliable source whether or not Canada contributes tax dollars to the monarchy and how much? Doing a search of my own i’m getting both yes we do and no we don’t.
Either way. Living in Canada i’m good with the monarchy. It’s part of our history and partly what separated is from the americans.
Either way. Living in Canada i’m good with the monarchy. It’s part of our history and partly what separated is from the americans.
It really gives me a mix of.. sadness and weird laughter to be reminded that some Canadians feel our self worth of a nation is so pathetically frail that they rather have an actual Queen from another country be a figurehead for our country in lieu of being considered more similar to our neighbor.
We can't let America swallow us up! Better instead tell make another nations Queen our Monarch.
God forbid Canadians stood for themselves.
I can't imagine living in such fear that you would rather have a monarch who was born into the role, in another country, on your money and as your head of state. What a way to live.
Then throw in the symbolism of racism, and that some people are "born to be better than others" into the mix, and it really puts a cherry on the top of this fear based reasoning.
Does anyone have a reliable source whether or not Canada contributes tax dollars to the monarchy and how much? Doing a search of my own i’m getting both yes we do and no we don’t.
Either way. Living in Canada i’m good with the monarchy. It’s part of our history and partly what separated is from the americans.
We can separate ourselves from the Americans by being better than them, rather than appointing a foreigner as our head of state simply because of their blood lines.
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It really gives me a mix of.. sadness and weird laughter to be reminded that some Canadians feel our self worth of a nation is so pathetically frail that they rather have an actual Queen from another country be a figurehead for our country in lieu of being considered more similar to our neighbor.
We can't let America swallow us up! Better instead tell make another nations Queen our Monarch.
God forbid Canadians stood for themselves.
I can't imagine living in such fear that you would rather have a monarch who was born into the role, in another country, on your money and as your head of state. What a way to live.
Then throw in the symbolism of racism, and that some people are "born to be better than others" into the mix, and it really puts a cherry on the top of this fear based reasoning.
I don't think "fear" enters the equation at all. Rather I suspect for the vast majority of Canadians it is indifference, coupled with a well-worn history of setting our entire national identity in opposition to Americans. If there were true Canadian cultural virtues they would probably be these two things: "indifference," and "not Americans."
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Does anyone have a reliable source whether or not Canada contributes tax dollars to the monarchy and how much? Doing a search of my own i’m getting both yes we do and no we don’t.
Either way. Living in Canada i’m good with the monarchy. It’s part of our history and partly what separated is from the americans.
A little while ago I was reading about how Queen Elizabeth is technically the largest property owner in the world because of all the Crown land she "owns" around the world.
I realize that this is just on paper and the there is no possibility that she would also enforce taking possession of all it. Although if she or a member of her family wanted a parcel here or there, they are legally entitled to just take it.
The thing I was wondering is if they actually get any of the royalties from all those oil and gas sites up north on Crown land. I am assuming not....?
And since this also became about DMX somehow, I actually didn't know who he was either. I don't see why that is crazy to believe.
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I don't think "fear" enters the equation at all. Rather I suspect for the vast majority of Canadians it is indifference, coupled with a well-worn history of setting our entire national identity in opposition to Americans. If there were true Canadian cultural virtues they would probably be these two things: "indifference," and "not Americans."
I do not know why you brought up indifference. Do some or many Canadians feel like that toward the crown? Maybe, maybe not, don't care as the person I was responding to gave a specific reason - not to be like the Americans. Don't care what other Canadians reasons are, I was responding to a specific point and won't move the borders of my response to a context that isn't appropriate.
Regarding no fear -I disagree. I think the "no Americans" stems from fear heavily. It doesn't just get to be its own thing- it comes from somewhere.
I do not know why you brought up indifference. Do some or many Canadians feel like that toward the crown? Maybe, maybe not, don't care as the person I was responding to gave a specific reason - not to be like the Americans. Don't care what other Canadians reasons are, I was responding to a specific point and won't move the borders of my response to a context that isn't appropriate.
Regarding no fear -I disagree. I think the "no Americans" stems from fear heavily. It doesn't just get to be its own thing- it comes from somewhere.
I also think it is mostly an internal thing and no one outside of Canada and maybe the U.S. even think about the British Crown as something that differentiates Canada from the U.S. I really don't think anyone outside of Canada and the U.S. cares. I have been to countries where people ask where I am from and I say "Canada", they say "Oh, America!", and I am like no, not quite, but that is OK. I have also seen maps made in other countries where Canada and the U.S. are only slightly different shades of the same colour because we are viewed pretty much the same. I really don't think the Crown thing factors in anywhere but here and the U.S.
Honestly, this doesn't bother me either. We share a large border with them (and only them). We speak exactly the same language. We share so many cultural aspects with them.
Our close and historically cordial relationship with the U.S. is more "Canadian" than the British Crown.
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I’d also like to add i don’t know who dmx is but mostly because i find rap the most offensive style of music. Not exactly any good role models. Not to derail but i’m surprised it’s actually accepted by society. Sorry about the derail.
Back to debating whether the Monarchy should have a place in Canada.
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