[Signing] Knights sign Lehner (5 years, $5 million AAV)

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Markstrom can get more $$$ and the NMC...just depends if he wants to move.

Lehner has good numbers on good defensive teams...his Chicago numbers aren't too hot.

Markstrom's numbers are all playing for that 60 shot against a night joke to the west.

Lehner had 92% on a 26th place Buffalo team. He had 92.4% on a 23rd place Buffalo team.
Markstrom has never had 92% in a season where he played 10 or more games. Lehner, though younger, has done this 4 times. He's even had a monster 93% season.
Markstrom's "not so hot" Chicago numbers match Markstrom's career high.

The two just aren't comparable. Really, the only ones who compare to Lehner are Vasilevsky, Gibson, Rask, Bishop, and Hellebuyck.
Lehner's career save percentage is third, only behind Rask and Bishop, in terms of goalies with 300 games played.
Markstrom's career save percentage is 33rd among active goalies.

Save percentage is one of the best "simple" stats in hockey. It's especially meaningful when the player has been on a number of teams, some good, some bad.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think the word you are searching for is "flagrantly".


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That's blatantly obvious.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Lehner had 92% on a 26th place Buffalo team. He had 92.4% on a 23rd place Buffalo team.
Markstrom has never had 92% in a season where he played 10 or more games. Lehner, though younger, has done this 4 times. He's even had a monster 93% season.
Markstrom's "not so hot" Chicago numbers match Markstrom's career high.

The two just aren't comparable. Really, the only ones who compare to Lehner are Vasilevsky, Gibson, Rask, Bishop, and Hellebuyck.
Lehner's career save percentage is third, only behind Rask and Bishop, in terms of goalies with 300 games played.
Markstrom's career save percentage is 33rd among active goalies.

Save percentage is one of the best "simple" stats in hockey. It's especially meaningful when the player has been on a number of teams, some good, some bad.

How do the numbers compare when looking at the previous two seasons?

[Crown Royal]

I really think that the combination of the flat cap and Bobrovsky's 10m deal being such a massive failure so far is going to deter teams from giving too much to any goalie. I think it is going to be a few years before we see another goaltender sign for more than $6m

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I really think that the combination of the flat cap and Bobrovsky's 10m deal being such a massive failure so far is going to deter teams from giving too much to any goalie. I think it is going to be a few years before we see another goaltender sign for more than $6m

Yeah, agreed.

I think Markstrom will set that bar at $6M, and no one will cross it until things begin to normalize.

...or until Carter Hart's ELC expires...

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I love Markstrom. Think he's morphed into an absolutely stud goalie. He's also going to be 30+ on this contract and has had some injury issues in back to back seasons.

If a team wants to offer big money and an NMC then more power too them. I'll be sad to see him go, but when Markstrom was brought in he was always a stop gap for Demko. Hey played well beyond what was expected and morphed beyond that "Stop gap" tag into a true #1. But if Demko is ready now, then we save money at a time we need to save it.

Still expect him to be an Av if he isn't a Canuck.

lol imagine getting hurt playing goal in Vancouver!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Lehner had 92% on a 26th place Buffalo team. He had 92.4% on a 23rd place Buffalo team.
Markstrom has never had 92% in a season where he played 10 or more games. Lehner, though younger, has done this 4 times. He's even had a monster 93% season.
Markstrom's "not so hot" Chicago numbers match Markstrom's career high.

The two just aren't comparable. Really, the only ones who compare to Lehner are Vasilevsky, Gibson, Rask, Bishop, and Hellebuyck.
Lehner's career save percentage is third, only behind Rask and Bishop, in terms of goalies with 300 games played.
Markstrom's career save percentage is 33rd among active goalies.

Save percentage is one of the best "simple" stats in hockey. It's especially meaningful when the player has been on a number of teams, some good, some bad.

Markstrom has never been on a good defensive team...he is the better goalie IMO. Hockey writers thought he was the better goalie past season too


I would take either guy but only one is potentially available...Markstrom is the best UFA goalie should he hit the market. Teams would be lining up to give him 6 despite Lehner's contract

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, agreed.

I think Markstrom will set that bar at $6M, and no one will cross it until things begin to normalize.

...or until Carter Hart's ELC expires...

Fair point on Hart, if anyone surpasses 6 it will be him, but coming off an ELC, 3x5m would probably be pretty fair still IMO

[Sandman]

I think that despite the flat cap, some dumb GM's will get into a bidding war, and he will end up getting silly money. The GMs who are most desperate always give out the stupid contracts. I could see this happening with several of the top UFAs.