2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Envitro]

Anyone see the Braden Holtby to the Flames rumour?

Andrew Berkshire of Sportsnet wrote in his mailbag column that Braden Holtby and his free agency situation will be an interesting story to watch. Coming off of three mediocre seasons, Berkishire wonders if he’ll need to prove he’s still capable of being starter.
He might be looking for a one-year deal on a team that has no sure-fire starter and will offer him an opportunity to play a ton of games. Berkshire believes that team could be the Calgary Flames, where Holtby can support (or perhaps easily outplay) David Rittich and the Flames wouldn’t have to rush Dustin Wolf.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-rumors-june-18-2020/

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Envitro

Anyone see the Braden Holtby to the Flames rumour?

https://news.google.com/articles/CBM...A&ceid=CA%3Aen

Please God no!

[Robo]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Please God no!

I was going to say if it's a cheap deal I would do it then I realized this is what we have been doing for the past 4 seasons

[Roof-Daddy]

Holtby on a 1 year show me deal wouldn't be the worst thing I guess. Its what we just did with Talbot and he was pretty decent, and Holtby is younger than Talbot and has obviously been at a much higher level in the past.

Cap hit cant be very high though.

[Poe969]

Saying the Flyers wouldn't give up Farabee straight up for Gaudreau is just like saying the Flames wouldn't give up Pelletier for Pasternak.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Please God no!

Do you have an aversion to star players around the league? Lol.

Hotlby on a one year show me contract sounds like a perfect solution for the coming season. I vastly prefer Lehner, but with his somewhat turbulent history and stated desire for a long term money contract, I don't think he's in the cards.

Holtby could turn around and play lights out, or be an excellent back up to Rittich. I see it as a higher reward Cam Talbot. I also don't think a one year deal for him will be very pricey.

[Toonage]

I doubt Holtby signs a 1 year show me deal when a team like say, Buffalo, who is under the gun to win might just throw what cash they have at him for a longer term deal.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, we have reached a new level of complete ridiculousness here that makes HF look sane. Johnny Gaudreau who is an elite all star winger is not worth Farabee straight up. Wtf is going on here...

Literally in my post that you quoted, I stated that I wasn't saying Farabee was worth more than Johnny.
However I'm sure you know trades are more nuanced and aren't just exercises in pure value.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, we have reached a new level of complete ridiculousness here that makes HF look sane. Johnny Gaudreau who is an elite all star winger is not worth Farabee straight up. Wtf is going on here...

It's pretty funny how you look down you nose to HF. who cares. You think you're better? Please.

[BigErnSalute_16]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Literally in my post that you quoted, I stated that I wasn't saying Farabee was worth more than Johnny.
However I'm sure you know trades are more nuanced and aren't just exercises in pure value.

I mean they are more nuanced than just pure value but it also always comes back to value. If Calgary called and said "we're moving Gaudreau, we want Farabee straight up" the Flyers GM would probably be fired if he said no.

[Nelson]

The New Jersey Devils have traded star Taylor Hall (50% retained) and Blake Speers to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for a 2020 conditional first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), a conditional 2021 third-rounder, along with forward prospects Nate Schnarr, Nick Merkley (2015 1st round pick) and defenceman Kevin Bahl.

So, the parallel trade would be Gaudreau (50% retained) and Ryan Lomberg for

2021 conditional 1st,
2022 conditional 3rd,
Three decent to pretty good prospects.

Why are we expecting more than that? Hall is a former NHL MVP.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Nelson

The New Jersey Devils have traded star Taylor Hall (50% retained) and Blake Speers to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for a 2020 conditional first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), a conditional 2021 third-rounder, along with forward prospects Nate Schnarr, Nick Merkley (2015 1st round pick) and defenceman Kevin Bahl.



So, the parallel trade would be Gaudreau (50% retained) and Ryan Lomberg for



2021 conditional 1st,

2022 conditional 3rd,

Three decent to pretty good prospects.



Why are we expecting more than that? Hall is a former NHL MVP.

Gaudreau comes with a guaranteed two-year cap-hit under $7 m, that's why.

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[Scroopy Noopers]

Holtby scares me as he has been really shaky for a while. I expect his odds of recovering are high though, I just worry his name will bring a huge cap hit. We can’t have another cap hit mistake.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by nelson

the new jersey devils have traded star taylor hall (50% retained) and blake speers to the arizona coyotes in exchange for a 2020 conditional first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), a conditional 2021 third-rounder, along with forward prospects nate schnarr, nick merkley (2015 1st round pick) and defenceman kevin bahl.

So, the parallel trade would be gaudreau (50% retained) and ryan lomberg for

2021 conditional 1st,
2022 conditional 3rd,
three decent to pretty good prospects.

Why are we expecting more than that? Hall is a former nhl mvp.

r-e-n-t-a-l

[SuperMatt18]

Yup look at what Taylor hall got in return, and look at what Blake Coleman got in return, and you see the difference between trading a rental vs trading a value contract with term remaining.

It's why you are hearing a lot of Gaudreau trade rumours right now, Treliving knows that if you want to get the highest return on Gaudreau you need to do it this offseason. Can't wait until he only has one year left on his contract, and is an upcoming UFA. Then you get a return like the Iggy trade :barf:

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Gaudreau comes with a guaranteed two-year cap-hit under $7 m, that's why.

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Right. So then we’d better be getting a lot more than Joel Farabee. I think it’s gotta be something like 1st rounder plus top centre prospect like Cozens plus a good RHD at a good cap hit.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Pulok is another name I could see the Islanders looking to include in a Johnny deal.

He checks several Treliving boxes for draft day trades. Dman, RFA and he is a 2013 1st round pick to boot.

If Dobson would be a no go from the Islanders a package could include Pulock but that does create expansion problems potentially

Extremely doubtful.

The Islanders are not trading their #1 defensemen in a deal to bring in Johnny, unless of course they are having issues with contract negotiations.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yup look at what Taylor hall got in return, and look at what Blake Coleman got in return, and you see the difference between trading a rental vs trading a value contract with term remaining.

It's why you are hearing a lot of Gaudreau trade rumours right now, Treliving knows that if you want to get the highest return on Gaudreau you need to do it this offseason. Can't wait until he only has one year left on his contract, and is an upcoming UFA. Then you get a return like the Iggy trade :barf:

I do think that because Coleman was traded at the deadline, the Flames won’t be able to get a proportionate upgrade in return for their winger with term if they trade during the offseason. The deadline seems to produce the highest returns.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Do you have an aversion to star players around the league? Lol.

Hotlby on a one year show me contract sounds like a perfect solution for the coming season. I vastly prefer Lehner, but with his somewhat turbulent history and stated desire for a long term money contract, I don't think he's in the cards.

Holtby could turn around and play lights out, or be an excellent back up to Rittich. I see it as a higher reward Cam Talbot. I also don't think a one year deal for him will be very pricey.

Because it won't be a show me contract. Anyone who thinks a recent SC winning goalie who has been near the top of the league is coming in on a one year show me deal is out to lunch! If that was remotely possible I would be fine with Holtby coming in but let's talk reality here people. He isn't signing for 1 year and if he does it will be very pricey. At least 7M pricey.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TOfan

It's pretty funny how you look down you nose to HF. who cares. You think you're better? Please.

I love that you have to comment on every post I make on here like some teenage lovestruck girl following her favourite musician. Can I send you an autograph? Like if you are a day over 16 that is kind of scary.