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Old 02-25-2020, 11:42 AM   #81
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One of the things I think is highly underrated and underappreciated with defenseman is being able to get the puck to the net through defenders which I think Gustafsson is really great at. I'm looking forward to see him do this.

Most people might think I'm crazy to suggest this and I understand it's not conventional to bring a 4th line up to 1st line but one thing I'd like to see is Jankowski in Monahans role for a few games. Here's my justification:

Jankowski is big like Monahan, speed is similar, has a great shot, has shown the ability to score playing on the bottom 6 but I don't ever recall him getting a look on the top 6. What I think he excels vs Monahan is he's better defensively. He already has ice-time with Lindholm on the PK as well. Also this would be another way to see if Monahan could drive his own line. If that works, we could possibly have a decent mix.

Gaudreau - Jankowski - Lindholm
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Jankowski does deserve more opportunity to play with skilled players when he is scoring. Backlund assisted Janko's first two goals of this year, how many times they were put on same line? Last year he scored many short hand goals, maybe it's due to he only got the chance to play with skilled players such as Lindholm on PK?

I do like the Janko / Reider line, they are both good on PK, so no reason they can't do it as a checking line vs other teams top line on 5 on 5 .
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Does he really? The thing I have appreciated the most about Lucic since he arrived is how great a passer he is. He is frequently the one making tape-to-tape reads through traffic to get the puck off the boards and onto the stick of one of his line mates to get it out of the zone. I suppose Bennett has more raw skill, but I still question his ability to think the game at speed and make good decisions. He has been much better lately, but Lucic's vision is fairly under-appreciated.
Lucic has provided a lot of value on the line, particularly when he's the outlet/pivot at his own blue line. His ability to shield the puck from the winger or pinching dman, and progress the puck to his line mates who have built up speed/forward momentum has allowed that line to create transition.

Not to mention, Lucic's ability to board battle and cycle the puck is something that has also helped Bennett's game.

I don't see any need to tinker with the forward lines, particularly that one.

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Rinaldo is with Calgary for the rest of the season. He can't be sent down because the Flames did not have him on the AHL roster before the deadline.
I think he can still be sent down, he’s just not eligible for the AHL playoffs.
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Old 02-25-2020, 11:46 AM   #84
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Old 02-25-2020, 11:48 AM   #85
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I think he can still be sent down, he’s just not eligible for the AHL playoffs.
Nope. The CBA does not allow teams to loan players after the deadline unless they have been recalled after the deadline from the AHL team or certain injury conditions

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They needed to waive Rinaldo and sent him down before the deadline then recalled him for him to be eligible to be assigned to the AHL again this season.

The only players currently on the NHL roster that are eligible to be sent down are Kylington and Dube because the Flames papered them.

It is also the reason they traded Davidson. He was no longer eligible to be sent down so they traded him to SJ where he had more of a chance to play instead of waiting in the press box for 3 to 4 more injuries to the D.

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So Bennett plays probably the best 9 game stretch of his career outside of the playoffs, at centre, with linemates that actually seem to gel with him and his reward is 4th line LW, with a centre that is worse than he is.

What is the fascination with keeping Janko at centre at all costs? move him to the wing and at least let Bennett continue his success down the middle.
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I like Bort's name but I think Gus is a funnier nickname for some reason. It's just fun to say. Hehe, Gus.

But neither comes close to Jyrki Jokipakka.
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One of the things I think is highly underrated and underappreciated with defenseman is being able to get the puck to the net through defenders which I think Gustafsson is really great at. I'm looking forward to see him do this.

Most people might think I'm crazy to suggest this and I understand it's not conventional to bring a 4th line up to 1st line but one thing I'd like to see is Jankowski in Monahans role for a few games. Here's my justification:

Jankowski is big like Monahan, speed is similar, has a great shot, has shown the ability to score playing on the bottom 6 but I don't ever recall him getting a look on the top 6. What I think he excels vs Monahan is he's better defensively. He already has ice-time with Lindholm on the PK as well. Also this would be another way to see if Monahan could drive his own line. If that works, we could possibly have a decent mix.

Gaudreau - Jankowski - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Mangiapane
Bennett - Monahan - Dube
Lucic - Ryan - Rieder
I am intrigued, but also not the best time to do it. We’re playing against the best team in the league today.

If we can lock a playoff slot ASAP, or explore this during the preseason/beginning games of next season, it sounds great.

But as of right now, we will not be seeing Jankowski or even Bennett in the top 6. If one of Monahan/Backlund go down the first alternative is Lindholm back at C. Ryan is the second. Jankowski is an afterthought.

It’s a decent idea though. Jankowski, when given some top 6 ice time, does pretty good for the most part. The problem with him (Monahan for this matter) is consistency. It took him half the season to finally get rolling. Not someone I want to give top 6 ice time to when we are battling for a playoff spot in such a tight race.
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Lucic has provided a lot of value on the line, particularly when he's the outlet/pivot at his own blue line. His ability to shield the puck from the winger or pinching dman, and progress the puck to his line mates who have built up speed/forward momentum has allowed that line to create transition.

Not to mention, Lucic's ability to board battle and cycle the puck is something that has also helped Bennett's game.

I don't see any need to tinker with the forward lines, particularly that one.
This is the part of Lucic's game that seems to be overlooked. He's really effective at board battles, puck recovery and overall possession. Far better than, say, the 2nd line, which is why we tend to see more sustained offensive zone pressure from the 3rd line and seems to "look good".
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Bad feeling about this one. They got embarrassed last game
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I think Lucic-Ryan have shown chemistry, and Dube-Bennett have shown chemistry.
Interesting. I've most often thought that Ryan-Dube are a great pair, chemistry wise.
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According to Flames Game Day, Gio not guaranteed. Will be a game time decision.

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Bit of a raw deal for Kyllington, whose game I've liked a lot lately. He's been quick on his feet, first pass has improved, decision making's been a lot better, and he's been more involved defensively too. Not much question Bort and Gus are upgrades though, on experience alone.

But while I hope we can retain Bort (to replace Hamonic) I don't expect Gus sticks around, based on salary expectations and given what he's said about giving the Hawks a heavy discount. That being he case, I'd like to see OK in a full-time role next year. He just oozes natural ability; one of the most fluid and natural skaters (like Brodie) you'll ever see.

Ideal scenario for me would be a 2021 D of:

Gio-Brodie
Hanifin-Anderson
Forbort-Kyllington

Losing Brodie would be a mistake, in my opinion.
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Excited to see CGY against a good BOS team. CGY continues the process: play hard, compete all over the ice, smart movement of puck with quick passing and make plays.

Looking forward to seeing the new additions but also seeing CGY really dial into how they want to play every night, on the road or at home. Score goals!!!
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So Bennett plays probably the best 9 game stretch of his career outside of the playoffs, at centre, with linemates that actually seem to gel with him and his reward is 4th line LW, with a centre that is worse than he is.

What is the fascination with keeping Janko at centre at all costs? move him to the wing and at least let Bennett continue his success down the middle.
It seems very bizarre to punish bennett this way when he has outplayed Ryan last game and has been really good the last 9 games...

But I mean what else do we expect at this point.

I hope for his sake he gets traded this offseason to a team where he can thrive, as opposed to us just burying him so we can one day say "see, he didn't turn out to be anything"
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What the hell?

Why break up the third line just as there was some real chemistry and production coming from Lucic-Bennett-Dube? The last three games you were getting playoff Bennett, and all it took was moving to center and playing with a talent like Dube.

Ryan on the fourth would have been fine, especially now that their is no roster limit and they could have put Czarnik on his wing without consequence.

This is more baffling and disappointing than anything that happened yesterday.
5V5 goal differentials by line:
Lucic-Bennett-Dube: -2
Lucic-Ryan-Dube: +8

I think is the reason.

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