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GordonBlue · 02-15-2020, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

4-5-1 since the All Star break. Played some tough divisional rivals in that stretch (SJx2, LA, ANH, EDMx2, VAN) along with a few Central division games (NSH, ST.L, CHI).

Not exactly an easy stretch of hockey and the Flames got close to a majority of the points available during those 10 games..

What do you mean not exactly easy?
Should have been easy to make up a lot of points.

It was easy. SJ. Sucks this year. LA sucks this year. ANA sucks this year and doesn't Edmonton suck too?

GranteedEV · 02-15-2020, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Oilers have 2 games in hand 2 points up I think. Yotes beat the Caps are are 1 point back. Wake up Flames or you'll be golfing soon.

Wouldn't be so bad to fall to 22nd place and get a shot at winning the lottery. This team has issues down the middle that only a high draft pick can realistically solve. Unlike 2018 when we traded our pick for a #4/#5 defenseman, we actually have our pick right now.

In Tank Commander Ward I Trust.

Psytic · 02-15-2020, 11:02 PM

Ball is in BT's court. Whether you think its the lack of a seasoned coach, or the players or a little of both, he needs to figure this pile of stinking bipolar ####e out.

cheung31 · 02-15-2020, 11:02 PM

This team reminds me of Gulutzen-era Jekyll and Hyde bull####. Ugh...

dino7c · 02-15-2020, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

*sigh*

Sigh yourself....700 goal tending isn't good enough. This Thinking it is, that's the awful take

The Fonz · 02-15-2020, 11:04 PM

What a bunch of tit heads

shadowlord · 02-15-2020, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

I think the team is fine, I think the coaches system is the issue. You have a small skilled team told to play chip and chase. It simply doesn't work. The two games before the Kings game they were playing puck possession and looked great. Then against the Kings it was chip and chase again, I don't get it....

Agreed. The very first shift of this game with the tkachuk-backlund-mangiapane line, the puck gets dumped in. Mangiapane almost gets to it, but not before the defender, who sends it around to the boards eventually getting to Toews who scores off the rush.

I've seen this too many times (especially from that Tkachuk's line) since Ward took over. When they carry the puck it, it's much better and leads to sustained pressure in the offensive zone.

There was this one game in December/January where they put Lucic onto that line instead of Mangiapane after the 1st intermission, and then Lucic went in, dug the puck out and fed it to Backlund on his first shift. I think Backlund scored too, but that's not my point.

Ward either needs to stop telling them to play dump-and-chase, or he needs to put players on lines that are competent at puck retrieval.

Calgary4LIfe · 02-15-2020, 11:07 PM

Goaltending was fine. Spectacular? Nope. Abysmal? Nope.

The Goalies didn't steal this game, but the goalies didn't lose it either. The players lost this one by not competing and consistently allowing the Hawks to have amazing shot qualities.

Vinny01 · 02-15-2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonBlue

What do you mean not exactly easy?
Should have been easy to make up a lot of points.

It was easy. SJ. Sucks this year. LA sucks this year. ANA sucks this year and doesn't Edmonton suck too?

6 of 8 points against the Oilers we are doing fine against your 2 man team

zamler · 02-15-2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Psytic

Ball is in BT's court. Whether you think its the lack of a seasoned coach, or the players or a little of both, he needs to figure this pile of stinking bipolar ####e out.

Shouldn't be, Tre built this amazingly average club I don't want him to try and fix it.

Dragomir · 02-15-2020, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Wouldn't be so bad to fall to 22nd place and get a shot at winning the lottery. This team has issues down the middle that only a high draft pick can realistically solve. Unlike 2018 when we traded our pick for a #4/#5 defenseman, we actually have our pick right now.

In Tank Commander Ward I Trust.

Yes! Ship out the losers Monahan and Johnny and embrace the tank!

OldDutch · 02-15-2020, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

What the hell kind of logic is this

Stockholm syndrome

Dragomir · 02-15-2020, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

6 of 8 points against the Oilers we are doing fine against your 2 man team

Can’t compare the two clubs, the Oilers are in year 15 of their rebuild and we are only in year 6

Luder · 02-15-2020, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Shouldn't be, Tre built this amazingly average club I don't want him to try and fix it.

The team has been amazingly average since they won the cup, why change now?

DeluxeMoustache · 02-15-2020, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Sigh yourself....700 goal tending isn't good enough. This Thinking it is, that's the awful take

#### sv%, it’s useless without context

Never mind probabilities, break it down goal by goal

DeluxeMoustache · 02-15-2020, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Wouldn't be so bad to fall to 22nd place and get a shot at winning the lottery. This team has issues down the middle that only a high draft pick can realistically solve. Unlike 2018 when we traded our pick for a #4/#5 defenseman, we actually have our pick right now.

In Tank Commander Ward I Trust.

Disagree, that’s loser thinking

And unrelated to how the goals were scored tonight

The Cobra · 02-15-2020, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Well that sucks.

But really, first game back after a road trip against a hungry team? You can’t expect to win that game really, playoff race or no playoff race.

I think accepting a loss against an inferior team at home because it’s your first game back is really just accepting mediocrity.

But is Chicago really an inferior team?

They have a much better goal differential and a tougher schedule?

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N-E-B · 02-15-2020, 11:31 PM

Good teams win consistently. It’s not what this group can do when they play the right way, it’s how often they play the right way.

Detroit just beat Boston. Any team can beat any team on any given night. The difference between 1st and 31st is consistency. This team has absolutely none of it.

Is it the coaching? Is it the players? Is it a combination of both? I don’t know anymore and I really feel like I’m wasting my time trying to figure it out. This team has needed a heart transplant since 2015. It’s about time they get one. It’s just time to decide if the heart is the coaches, the players, or the GM. Or maybe it’s all of them.

Leeman4Gilmour · 02-15-2020, 11:32 PM

Found the After Hours interview with Lucic excellent. He’s just a straight up guy. Got the feeling he wasn’t a Peters fan.

The Cobra · 02-15-2020, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

4-5-1 since the All Star break. Played some tough divisional rivals in that stretch (SJx2, LA, ANH, EDMx2, VAN) along with a few Central division games (NSH, ST.L, CHI).

Not exactly an easy stretch of hockey and the Flames got close to a majority of the points available during those 10 games.

Next ten they get some non-Western Conference foes to balance out this tough Western Conference schedule they have faced since the break (Boston twice, Tampa Bay, Florida, Columbus, Detroit) along with some Western Conference cannon fodder (Vegas, Anaheim, Nashville, Arizona).

So the schedule balances out for the Flames and I think it is clear that they will only improve now that they got through the murders row they had to face since the All Star break. Seems pretty clear as to what they should do at the pending trade deadline.

Tough divisional opponents? That 4 games against the 3 bottom feeders of the west division.

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