12-16-2019, 02:52 PM
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#81
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Norm!
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Off to the Edmonton page on HFOil
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12-16-2019, 02:52 PM
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#82
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2018
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If Tre wouldn't give a first in this deal he better not for someone like Toffoli at the deadline.
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12-16-2019, 02:54 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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I love the conditions on the picks.
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12-16-2019, 02:54 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by New Era
Yeah, we could have. Mangipagne and Kylington alone was better than the entire package that Jersey got. I'm glad we didn't go down this road, but Calgary could have bettered the deal. I think Treliving holding onto the 1st round picks is a damn good thing.
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Of course we could have paid it, but given the likelihood that Hall bolts in the summer or the cost to re-sign him is too high, yes, I think including players likc Mangiapane, Kylington, Phillips, etc., would be too much for the Flames.
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12-16-2019, 02:54 PM
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#85
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Hull and Oates?
How about Hall and Yotes
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12-16-2019, 02:54 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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Getting pretty ####ing sick of division rivals adding elite players every goddamn season.
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12-16-2019, 02:55 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Hull and Oates?
How about Hall and Yotes
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I can't go for that (no can do)
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12-16-2019, 02:55 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Getting pretty ####ing sick of division rivals adding elite players every goddamn season.
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Why? The Sharks sewered their season and many seasons to come by re-signing Karlsson.
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12-16-2019, 02:56 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
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The nice part about this trade is it sets the possible market for the next few trades. Hall went for not much. Buyer's market!
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12-16-2019, 02:58 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Getting pretty ####ing sick of division rivals adding elite players every goddamn season.
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Yeah, Tree called himself out for being horse%#^* and he has yet again sat back while divisional rivals improve.
He hasn’t accomplished anything since the Hanifin/Lindholm trade.
I’m not sure why he thought it was such a brilliant idea to sink a 1st and two 2nds into a #4 defenceman but then pulls up short on actual high end talent.
If Hall didn’t want to sign an extension, then yeah - let ARZ blow their load on a rental...but if he extends in Arizona (which makes sense if he wants the 8th year), then yeah...I’m not too happy as a Flames fan.
Last edited by ComixZone; 12-16-2019 at 03:00 PM.
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12-16-2019, 02:59 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
Why? The Sharks sewered their season and many seasons to come by re-signing Karlsson.
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Yeah everyone complained how much better the Sharks were after that trade when the reality is they got worse and that contract is a disaster. The Coyotes paid a lot for a rental. Maybe he helps them make the playoffs and win a round but maybe he doesn't.
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12-16-2019, 03:00 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Getting pretty ####ing sick of division rivals adding elite players every goddamn season.
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Patience young grasshopper.
Beyond this year this is bad for Arizona.
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12-16-2019, 03:01 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Yeah, Tree called himself out for being horse%#^* and he has yet again sat back while divisional rivals improve.
He hasn’t accomplished anything since the Hanifin/Lindholm trade.
I’m not sure why he thought it was such a brilliant idea to sink a 1st and two 2nds into a #4 defenceman but then pulls up short on actual high end talent.
If Hall didn’t want to sign an extension, then yeah - let ARZ blow their load on a rental...but if he extends in Arizona (which makes sense if he wants the 8th year), then yeah...I’m not too happy as a Flames fan.
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Did you really think the Flames were going to pay that price for a guy that isn't willing to commit to signing with them? All the Coyotes are guaranteed is 2/3 of a season of Hall. If they miss the playoffs or don't get past the 1st round (not far fetched) the trade is a disaster.
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12-16-2019, 03:01 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Still think it's Vegas and Calgary in the drivers seat to win the Pacific but this pushes Edmonton down which is always hilarious.
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12-16-2019, 03:02 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Getting pretty ####ing sick of division rivals adding elite players every goddamn season.
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Meh, I honestly think the Flames did good and dodged a bullet.Just not a good fit on the roster. Adding depth at a position just for the sake of adding talent will Billy can really mess things up.
Besides, I dont mind if the totes create a nice little push this year in the playoffs. Sure as hell beats Edmonton.
Yotes and their two fans deserve a nice reprieve from the horror that franchise has been since it inception. Save two or 3 seasons.
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12-16-2019, 03:03 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Did you really think the Flames were going to pay that price for a guy that isn't willing to commit to signing with them?
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No, I’ve always said rental = bad. So if this is a pure rental, it’s awful.
If he re-signs though, it sucks for us - and Hall is financially motivated to re-sign as he can get that 8th year.
I’d pay two 1st round picks for 8.5 seasons of Taylor Hall.
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Meh, I honestly think the Flames did good and dodged a bullet.Just not a good fit on the roster. Adding depth at a position just for the sake of adding talent will Billy can really mess things up.
Besides, I dont mind if the totes create a nice little push this year in the playoffs. Sure as hell beats Edmonton.
Yotes and their two fans deserve a nice reprieve from the horror that franchise has been since it inception. Save two or 3 seasons.
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...but we’ve been a horrid franchise for 40 years, save a handful of seasons.
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12-16-2019, 03:03 PM
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#97
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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Thanks for nothing Richard Dicklund.
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12-16-2019, 03:04 PM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
No, I’ve always said rental = bad. So if this is a pure rental, it’s awful.
If he re-signs though, it sucks for us - and Hall is financially motivated to re-sign as he can get that 8th year.
I’d pay two 1st round picks for 8.5 seasons of Taylor Hall.
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Do we even have cap space for his inevitable $10MM AAV contract?
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12-16-2019, 03:04 PM
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#99
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Yeah I agree with others that not landing Hall isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sure, it would've been nice, but there are other players out there who might make more sense and will likely be much cheaper:
- Eric Staal
- Jason Zucker
- Kyle Palmieri
- Tyler Toffoli
- Brandon Saad
etc.
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12-16-2019, 03:04 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
No, I’ve always said rental = bad. So if this is a pure rental, it’s awful.
If he re-signs though, it sucks for us - and Hall is financially motivated to re-sign as he can get that 8th year.
I’d pay two 1st round picks for 8.5 seasons of Taylor Hall.
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What about the accompanying $85 million? He's really not that good of a player.
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