[PGT] Flames 3 - Sabers 2 (OT)

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Geoff Ward is the first Flames coach to win his first game on the job since Brent Sutter on October 1, 2009, a 5-3 win over Vancouver

Is that also the last time the Flames won a season opener?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Backlund wouldn’t necessarily be your 4th centre, but if they can’t be a shut down line I don’t see why you’d put them out there. They’re producing nothing right now.

As for the “second” line, Gaudreau and Monahan can both play defence; the problem is that they’ve got such little confidence offensively that they’re cheating or otherwise trying to force it. Dube on the wing means they can simplify their game and let the young guy use his speed and do some of the work in the offensive zone.

Monahan can play defence some. Gaudreau can sometimes backcheck, but his D zone defence is baaaaad at the best of times. You need a guy who plays defence as second nature when Gaudreau is on the ice. That’s been Lindholm. It could still be. Gaudreau and Lindholm have chemistry - I’d keep them together. Dube or Mangiapane have the speed and digging prowess to stay with the play. And Dube is an alternate centre for waive outs.

Putting Tkachuk, Monahan and Backlund together gives Monahan the second centre he presently has with Lindholm. Backlund can skate and make plays, he just can’t finish well - that’s Monahan and Tkachuk. And right now Tkachuk loves to throw the puck out front but there’s usually no one there. That’s Monahan.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm all for spreading the offence but Mangi has 9 points and Gaudreau has 20

Gaudreau also plays in a ton of special teams situations...

Here are the Flames forwards' production per minute of 5v5 icetime:



I am a huge Gaudreau fan and I know this season is an outlier for him, but he simply has not been good 5v5.

[curves2000]

Is Fan 960 playing the post game show on the radio?? I am listening but they are talking about the Grey Cup and it's a different show.

I am streaming from their website too

[868904]

Maybe making Tkachuk-Lindy-Mangiapane the top line will free up Johnny and Mony for some easier match ups.

But honestly at this point, I don’t think Johnny and Mony could dominate a junior team.

[Harry Lime]

Everyone feels as though Johnny and Monny have struggled for a while, going back into last season. In the same breath, they want them to stay together as a tandem. Why?

The two games that Monahan played with Tkachuk, there was a noticeable uptick in his game.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Is Fan 960 playing the post game show on the radio?? I am listening but they are talking about the Grey Cup and it's a different show.

I am streaming from their website too

Not sure about now but their streaming has been screwed up all day

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Gaudreau also plays in a ton of special teams situations...

Here are the Flames forwards' production per minute of 5v5 icetime:



I am a huge Gaudreau fan and I know this season is an outlier for him, but he simply has not been good 5v5.

I agree he is struggling but to call him a black hole and praise Mangi is silly

[bubbsy]

Another flames W this season where the better team lost.

Rittich, Andersson, brodie, tkatchuk, ryan were net positive players. Everyone else, wow, lot of useless on this team.

Backlund missing the point blank chance early on, par for the course, Backlund is terrible.

Gio was money on 50/50 pucks last year. This year he's getting owned.

Mangiapane, he's not a top 6 player. He got owned along the boards all night.

We have 2 garbage players playing with the flames best forward on tkatchuk.

I'd be just fine with a losing season if it means this team maximizes any return on Giordano, and that i never have to see Backlund in a 2nd line player here again.

Take the 2 points, but man that was fugly. Just like basically every W this season.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I agree he is struggling but to call him a black hole and praise Mangi is silly

I think it is warranted mangiapane has been great and pretty responsible in his own zone lately, while gaudreau has been coasting for the last couple weeks a give away machine and very weak defensively it has been very frustrating to watch

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Another flames W this season where the better team lost.

Rittich, Andersson, brodie, tkatchuk, ryan were net positive players. Everyone else, wow, lot of useless on this team.

Backlund missing the point blank chance early on, par for the course, Backlund is terrible.

Gio was money on 50/50 pucks last year. This year he's getting owned.

Mangiapane, he's not a top 6 player. He got owned along the boards all night.

We have 2 garbage players playing with the flames best forward.

I'd be just fine with a losing season if it means this team maximizes any return on Giordano, and that i never have to see Backlund in a 2nd line player here again.

Take the 2 points, but man that was fugly. Just like basically every W this season.

[taxbuster]

Thought Rittich stole that game - just absolutely freaking outstanding!

Mang was good but needs finish still.

Brodes was a beast.

Chucky was...well...Chucky. Bang and crash and make things happen.

The Flames were lucky - but nonetheless, it was a big and emotional win for the team. Glad to see the boys able to celly at the end.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Canucks lose, and that’s nice.

How did that happen? Weren't they winning 5-3 at one point? I only pay half attention to that team.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by shadowlord

How did that happen? Weren't they winning 5-3 at one point? I only pay half attention to that team.

They were actually up 6-3 and the Pens came back and won 8-6.

Seeing that stuff makes me all that much more grateful for Rittich. It's really not all bad this season.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He really was.

Reminded me of the player he was when Gio went down 4 years ago.

You mean when the board was divided between Brodie and Gaudreau as to who was the Flames' most important player?

I remember.

[sa226]

Thought they had more energy and jump than we've seen in awhile.

But the giveaways and breakdowns reminded me of the fire wagon hockey from the first 10 games of last season.

Need to clean that up.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Is Fan 960 playing the post game show on the radio?? I am listening but they are talking about the Grey Cup and it's a different show.

I am streaming from their website too

They decided not to do a call-in show tonight. Steinberg says the decision came from station management.

[sa226]

Also I don't know what Conroy's coaching acumen is, but he seems like a guy who you would want to play hard for.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They decided not to do a call-in show tonight. Steinberg says the decision came from station management.

Smart. Who needs the masses commenting on Peters on live radio.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They decided not to do a call-in show tonight. Steinberg says the decision came from station management.

Yup sounds like they have been getting death threats about the Peters situation on their text line.

Doing a call in show probably gives these people another chance to spread some vile stuff on-air.