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timbit · 11-19-2019, 10:21 PM

Last 5 games,

Johnny is -10, 1 assist, with 9 shots.

Monahan is -6 , 1 goal and 1 assist with 16 shots.

Lindholm is -7, O points , with 12 shots.

Tkachuk is -2 , 1 goal and 1 assist , 13 shots

When your best players are that bad, little to no chance of winning.

Is that on Peters?

When they are performing as the teams best players and the team is winning , is that also on Peters?

Joborule · 11-19-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

You going to keep saying the same thing over and over? Please explain how Backlund is not a top 6 player when last season he was ranked 36th in even strength points among centers in the league. Is it his defense that is lacking for the top 6? Hes snakebitten at the moment like most of the team, its not lack of talent or effort.

He has one less even strength goal than both Gaudreau and Monahan this season, yet he is your target? Bizarre. Carry on then.

He's not a top 6 forward anymore. Is his play this season not making it any more clear? Guy can't get the puck in the net, or set players up.

It happens that older players play just drops off at a certain point.

Samonadreau · 11-19-2019, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathgod

There's a silver lining in all this. The playoff cutoff in the West is currently only 86 points. The Flames can get there with 63 points in their remaining 58 games. Not unattainable.

Admittedly, that cutoff is likely to increase a bit by season's end, but still...

You are such a mathgod

Joborule · 11-19-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

Last 5 games,

Johnny is -10, 1 assist, with 9 shots.

Monahan is -6 , 1 goal and 1 assist with 16 shots.

Lindholm is -7, O points , with 12 shots.

Tkachuk is -2 , 1 goal and 1 assist , 13 shots

When your best players are that bad, little to no chance of winning.

Is that on Peters?

When they are performing as the teams best players and the team is winning , is that also on Peters?

Can be both?

With questions like that, and the excuses we bring up for the coaching staff when a team isn't playing well, or blame that is placed on them, seems like the point of a hockey coach is completely pointless if they have no impact on the team's performance.

timbit · 11-19-2019, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

Can be both?

With questions like that, and the excuses we bring up for the coaching staff when a team isn't playing well, or blame that is placed on them, seems like the point of a hockey coach is completely pointless if they have no impact on the team's performance.

The best players ALWAYS have a bigger impact than the coach!

zamler · 11-19-2019, 10:27 PM

Screw the top line give them 4th line minutes until they get their #### together. Team is way better when they are not on the ice.

Kovaz · 11-19-2019, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

lot's of talk about the flames top players, pointing at Gaudreau and Monahan. How about Giordano?? He looks terrible out there? What is he doing on the first goal exactly??

if the flames come back next year with all of the same core (Monahan, Gaudreau, Giordano, Backlund) I can finally say treliving's just a very overrated GM.

Watch that first goal again. Giordano and Andersson are in position to handle a 2 on 2 with MacKinnon and Makar with Gaudreau tracking back to cover Burakovsky. Then Gaudreau completely bails on the play and leaves Gio out to dry.

FanIn80 · 11-19-2019, 10:31 PM

Outscored 15-3 over the last 4 games.

This team needs an enema.

bubbsy · 11-19-2019, 10:31 PM

6 regulation wins in the first 24 games.

Can we just start cheering for lottery picks and a dump all the vets, and a core piece, come deadline?

I think the flames could get some decent assets by moving out guys like:
- backlund (1st?+)
- brodie (2nd +)
- hamonic (2nd +)
- Talbot (3rd?)
- Ryan (3rd?+)

take those pics, grab a top 5 pick this year.

I don't like this core, and feel like I'm pretty damn close to not caring about this iteration of the flames core at all. I'd like to see a flames GM who finally have some frigin stones and get ahead of dumping players on time. Maybe it's time to look at getting something out of Giordano from a trade perspective. I also think Hamonic is just a highly averaged d man. Would be just fine seeing him traded out of here if they can get decent assets back.

the flames can't be in a tear it up part of a rebuild by the time the new arena opens. Might as well get started on the next rebuild to time building a team that's at least hoping to compete by the time the new arena is here.

iamca · 11-19-2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

not to be a downer, but this was an avs team missing some of their top players... no rantanen, no landeskog, no jost...

Playing even at home against an Avs team with 3 of the top players out is pretty sad.

Right now their opponent is essentially in the doesn't matter category.

Boys against men...

bubbsy · 11-19-2019, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kovaz

Watch that first goal again. Giordano and Andersson are in position to handle a 2 on 2 with MacKinnon and Makar with Gaudreau tracking back to cover Burakovsky. Then Gaudreau completely bails on the play and leaves Gio out to dry.

gio just abandons the far side avs player, who's just streaking in for the scoring chance. Instead Giordano shifts to the middle.

I haven't watched the replay again, but it just looked terrible during the initial replays I saw.

besides the one play, guy has been highly average.

tvp2003 · 11-19-2019, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

Last 5 games,

Johnny is -10, 1 assist, with 9 shots.

Mangiapane-Ryan-Dube
Tkachuk-Monahan-Lindholm
Lucic-Backlund-Frolik
Gaudreau-Jankowski-Rinaldo

Until they start playing like it, let’s give the minutes to the players that will actually contribute something. Woof.

The Big Chill · 11-19-2019, 10:49 PM

We are such an easy team to play against right now. We are playing soft and slow right through the lineup. We have to figure out how to up the tempo.

calgaryfox · 11-19-2019, 11:07 PM

Time for 13, 23 and 11 to either get things moving or get off the pot. Pouting or sulking won't get it done and if they aren't going to lead by example they should give their "letters" to those whose GAF meters aren't stuck on 0. Not scoring points is one thing, but playing without heart or desire is unacceptable.

dino7c · 11-19-2019, 11:11 PM

Most games are close...if the top players were scoring like they have in the past the Flames would be winning

MisterJoji · 11-19-2019, 11:12 PM

I still think this is just an epic funk and once they break out of it they’ll be right back in the thick of it. There’s too much talent to be this bad.

redforever · 11-19-2019, 11:15 PM

I for one am tired of the blender. Just give the lines some time together and let them gel a bit. It certainly can't be any worse.

And does anyone know the status of Brodie?

topfiverecords · 11-19-2019, 11:26 PM

Shot wide...goes wide...put it wide...tipped wide...shot high...went wide...deflected wide...goes high...missed wide...shot high and wide...blocked...glove save seen all the way.

DeluxeMoustache · 11-19-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnhitbox

Oh look, Neal just scored his 13th.

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Who cares about Neal, John***box ?

KootenayFlamesFan · 11-19-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

Last 5 games,

Johnny is -10, 1 assist, with 9 shots.

Monahan is -6 , 1 goal and 1 assist with 16 shots.

Lindholm is -7, O points , with 12 shots.

Tkachuk is -2 , 1 goal and 1 assist , 13 shots

When your best players are that bad, little to no chance of winning.

Incredible, really. Not much more to say.