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Old 02-08-2019, 10:55 AM   #81
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True, but if his tires are completely bald, hats off to the manager for having the balls to take matters into his own hands. I'm not going to stick up for a guy's right to drive on unsafe tires - I don't think you should have that right, particularly in winter. I'd like to see a pic. If they're objectively unsafe, I hope the manager keeps the keys until he buys new tires either there or has the car towed to a different shop for tires.
Lol, yeah we need more vigilante tire salesmen....
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I get the impression we’re not hearing even close to the entire story here.

A tire shop does not take a vehicle hostage as a sales tactic. Get real.
It is a common scam actually. There very well could be more to the story (and based on the lack of updates from the OP there probably is) but it absolutely does happen.

The car could be missing a wheel entirely and not have doors, the shop still can't hold it like this. The only way a shop can legally keep your vehicle is if you didn't pay them for something.

So either OP is lying and he owes an unpaid repair bill, or Kal Tire is attempting one of the oldest scams in he book. Either one is very likely

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Old 02-08-2019, 11:01 AM   #83
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It is a common scam actually. There very well could be more to the story (and based on the lack of updates from the OP there probably is) but it absolutely does happen
It’s common to refuse the owner their car keys in an attempt to sell parts?
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The car could be missing a wheel entirely and not have doors, the shop still can't hold it like this. The only way a shop can legally keep your vehicle is if you didn't pay them for something.

So either OP is lying and he owes an unpaid repair bill,
or Kal Tire is attempting one of the oldest scams in he book. Either one is very likely
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It is a common scam actually. There very well could be more to the story (and based on the lack of updates from the OP there probably is) but it absolutely does happen.

The car could be missing a wheel entirely and not have doors, the shop still can't hold it like this. The only way a shop can legally keep your vehicle is if you didn't pay them for something.

So either OP is lying and he owes an unpaid repair bill, or Kal Tire is attempting one of the oldest scams in he book. Either one is very likely
I have spent as much time on car forums than sports forums and bought a lot of tires over the decades and I do not believe this is a common scam at all. Typically the only reason business withhold the keys is because the bill is unpaid. As has been said there's probably more to this story than we have been told.
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It’s common to refuse the owner their car keys in an attempt to sell parts?
Very. A dealer tried it on my ex wife. "Oh this isn't safe we can't let you leave until you pay for us to fix this" ( i want to say it was a windshield but don't remember) when I went to get the car later all of a sudden it wasn't a problem. Just trying to sham a woman they figured didn't know about cars.

Usually the minute you give them any pushback they drop it though, which is why I'm leaning toward what I said above with OP a really having an unpaid bill

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#### that. I don't want him on bad tires either but the manager needs to do this legally and just report it. He's not the batman of tires, he has zero legal right to hold someone's property. And let's not forget he's not doing this because it's the right thing to do, he just wants the sale
Yeah that’s junk.

I still want to see a picture though.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:10 AM   #88
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Lol, yeah we need more vigilante tire salesmen....
Because we have to chase him. Because he's the hero Calgary deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...

a Dark Tire Salesman.
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Because we have to chase him. Because he's the hero Calgary deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...

a Dark Tire Salesman.
With the quality of Netflix these days, this could be an upper tier story.
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GullFloss, When you do get the car back, take it to Urban Expressions. They are awesome. I have been getting tires from them for years. I will never get tires from anywhere else.

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I get the impression we’re not hearing even close to the entire story here.

A tire shop does not take a vehicle hostage as a sales tactic. Get real.

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It is a common scam actually. There very well could be more to the story (and based on the lack of updates from the OP there probably is) but it absolutely does happen.
Here is the update: On Monday we coincidentally had purchased new tires for my fiance's vehicle from Calgary Puck's favorite tire shop and the install date was today. So I went down to Horton Road to get her new tires installed and told the owner my Kal Tire story. He said to have the Kal Tire car towed to his shop and he will get to the bottom of it all.

So the update is that a reputable tire specialist will give you the real story soon...

A moral of the story is that my fiance picks better tire shops than I do

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Crowfoot Dodge gave my keys to a car thief.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:41 AM   #92
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With the quality of Netflix these days, this could be an upper tier story.
There is a gold quality pun in here somewhere
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If the OP was lying and still owed money, why would Kal Tire:
A: offer to do more work, if he didn't pay for the initial?
B: offer to release the car to a tow truck?
Sounds like Kal tire is engaging in some shady practices.
I really hope the OP tells us which location this is and follows through with contacting Kal Tire corporate head office, because this is likely not the first or last time this guy would have pulled such a stunt.
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Here is the update: On Monday we coincidentally had purchased new tires for my fiance's vehicle from Calgary Puck's favorite tire shop and the install date was today. So I went down to Horton Road to get her new tires installed and told the owner my Kal Tire story. He said to have the Kal Tire car towed to his shop and he will get to the bottom of it all.

So the update is that a reputable tire specialist will give you the real story soon...

A moral of the story is that my fiance picks better tire shops than I do

Surely the Kal tire guy told you why he's withholding your keys without your permission?
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You really shouldn't have to pay for the tow truck, but if you're happy with the solution I guess that's all that matters.
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Do you have AMA? The tow would be free than wouldn't it
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have multiple cars (so they can hold the key) and an ama membership (free tow) so definitely hold the upper hand as it sits now (although they don't know that)
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Make sure they re-inflate the tires before the tow truck comes so you don't damage the rims.
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Do you have AMA? The tow would be free than wouldn't it
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Surely the Kal tire guy told you why he's withholding your keys without your permission?
I know I'd be asking, right before I called the cops.

we're really missing part of the story here.
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