Why would she even need to concern herself with breaking the law when she's doing something completely legal in the first place
Holding up traffic on a daily basis for no good reason...like getting from point a to point b on a bicycle? Sounds like a pretty valid reason to me
You gotta stop with this combined man hours thing dude. 2 minutes is 2 minutes, it doesnt magically mean an hour of collective time is wasted, it means each person wasted 2 minutes. Its frankly hilarious you keep bringing it up
also, maybe you shouldn't try and argue that you're not entitled while demanding people to spend thousands of dollars to make your commute 2 minutes faster
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She isn't doing anything illegal and there is another lane for you to pass if you are so inclined. I for one commend someone who is cycling in the winter. She is the one who is taking more time to make the healthy, environmentally responsible choice. Maybe you could do the same and it would help with your stress filled nature.
OMFG. I know she isn't doing anything illegal. There are lots of things that are legal but still inconsiderate.
Are you just reading half the posts, or did you mistakenly miss the five times I've said both lanes are congested at rush hour making passing impossible most days? Why must I repeat myself in every post in this thread? This is insanity. I'm now more annoyed with this thread than this chick ever made me. Good job.
I think cycling is a great choice, too. I follow along with Fuzz and Big Time and Habernac and all those other guys that talk of their biking to work even though I have never ridden my bike in the winter. I don't commend people who block traffic while slowly biking on arterial roads when there are better options available.
Why would she even need to concern herself with breaking the law when she's doing something completely legal in the first place
Holding up traffic on a daily basis for no good reason...like getting from point a to point b on a bicycle? Sounds like a pretty valid reason to me
You gotta stop with this combined man hours thing dude. 2 minutes is 2 minutes, it doesnt magically mean an hour of collective time is wasted, it means each person wasted 2 minutes. Its frankly hilarious you keep bringing it up
also, maybe you shouldn't try and argue that you're not entitled while demanding people to spend thousands of dollars to make your commute 2 minutes faster
Man hours is the accepted way productivity (or lack thereof) is measured throughout the world. You didn't know that?
Man hours is the accepted way productivity (or lack thereof) is measured throughout the world. You didn't know that?
Then, to look at it another way...she is impeding 1 signal-cycle at the intersection per day. If the afternoon rush hour is 3 hours long, and each light cycle is 90 seconds maximum, then 0.83% (let's say 1% due to the offshoot effects) of the rush hour is slower than normal because of her. Is that worth getting upset about?
It seems like the solution that would make everybody happiest in the shortest amount of time would be for the City to clear the roads better. I agree with the comments on contacting 311- but take the angle that this is for cyclist safety, as opposed to complaining about cyclists impeding your commute. Then start some local petition to widen those sidewalks into proper pathways.
Is she turning from Anderson onto Acadia from the dual turn lane or coming south on Acadia and crossing Anderson? If she is coming from Anderson, where in the world is she biking from? And if she is coming from Acadia how is she blocking the dual turn lane? If traffic is still so backed up that when the turn lane turns green, I feel it would be going so slow anyways that a cyclist wouldn't change the flow of traffic at all.
I'm just a little confused by the whole scenario, would probably have to actually see it to understand but knowing that intersection, it takes forever sometimes from one light to the next that I can hardly see someone going on a green southbound would then hold up a person turning on the next turn light afterwards. If that's the case she would be just as fast walking.
Then, to look at it another way...she is impeding 1 signal-cycle at the intersection per day. If the afternoon rush hour is 3 hours long, and each light cycle is 90 seconds maximum, then 0.83% (let's say 1% due to the offshoot effects) of the rush hour is slower than normal because of her. Is that worth getting upset about?
Possibly, traffic is very sensitive to peak capacity this one missed light could have knock on affects for the rest of rush hour. It might not but things like ramp metering and variable speed limits work by making small adjustments to volume and to prevent gridlock
Man hours is the accepted way productivity (or lack thereof) is measured throughout the world. You didn't know that?
Lots of things in life are inconvenient, you spent more time on this topic, on an online message board than this woman could have ever cost you. Leads me to think that the 1 minute of you life her cycling cost you wouldn't have been put to great use.
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I often ride my bike on the sidewalk when no pedestrians are around so that drivers can go by. I did it today, in fact. I'm on Silver's side here.
Ideally, we would get some improved bicycle infrastructure. Without that, I will use my best judgement instead of blindly obeying the letter of the law.
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Lots of things in life are inconvenient, you spent more time on this topic, on an online message board than this woman could have ever cost you. Leads me to think that the 1 minute of you life her cycling cost you wouldn't have been put to great use.
Well, I have to be present at my job whether I'm busy or not. This afternoon I wasn't busy, but I still had to be available. The time spent here is completely unrelated to a legitimate gripe about an individual holding up traffic unnecessarily. Like, there's no correlation whatsoever.
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Is she turning from Anderson onto Acadia from the dual turn lane or coming south on Acadia and crossing Anderson? If she is coming from Anderson, where in the world is she biking from? And if she is coming from Acadia how is she blocking the dual turn lane? If traffic is still so backed up that when the turn lane turns green, I feel it would be going so slow anyways that a cyclist wouldn't change the flow of traffic at all.
I'm just a little confused by the whole scenario, would probably have to actually see it to understand but knowing that intersection, it takes forever sometimes from one light to the next that I can hardly see someone going on a green southbound would then hold up a person turning on the next turn light afterwards. If that's the case she would be just as fast walking.
She is riding southbound on Acadia as she approaches Anderson from the north. She then crosses Anderson while she's still on Acadia. The next cycle for the lights after she has crossed is the dual turn off Anderson onto Acadia.
She slows down traffic. For some reason there are a lot of people who aren't believing me. I don't know why I'd lie about this. I've been posting here for a decade and I don't think I've ever been caught in a lie. It's actually really strange to be accused of being dishonest for this.
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Well, I have to be present at my job whether I'm busy or not. This afternoon I wasn't busy, but I still had to be available. The time spent here is completely unrelated to a legitimate gripe about an individual holding up traffic unnecessarily. Like, there's no correlation whatsoever.
She is riding southbound on Acadia as she approaches Anderson from the north. She then crosses Anderson while she's still on Acadia. The next cycle for the lights after she has crossed is the dual turn off Anderson onto Acadia.
She slows down traffic. For some reason there are a lot of people who aren't believing me. I don't know why I'd lie about this. I've been posting here for a decade and I don't think I've ever been caught in a lie. It's actually really strange to be accused of being dishonest for this.
I'm not accusing you of lying, I was just confused by the situation. She should be filtered to the front at Acadia when the light turns green, so she should have ~ 60 seconds before the turn lane begins and then probably 15-30 seconds after for traffic to catch up. She is still holding up traffic with that amount of time then yes she definitely should be on the sidewalk walking, she isn't cycling with enough speed or confidence then to be on the road.
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Well, I have to be present at my job whether I'm busy or not. This afternoon I wasn't busy, but I still had to be available. The time spent here is completely unrelated to a legitimate gripe about an individual holding up traffic unnecessarily. Like, there's no correlation whatsoever.
Her being there may have cost you a slight amount of time, but your lack of any productivity in the meantime is evidence that this time wasn't going to be used for anything with societal or self benefit. It is a gripe that someone wasted your time, which has been shown to possess marginal value based on your actions. You are just being a whiner as someone else made your day very slightly more inconvenient because they had the gall to something to benefit themselves.
I ride daily, including taking my daughter to school in a chariot a couple times a week. This takes place on a road with those "ride single file" signs and bump outs everywhere. I'm not comfortable holding up traffic, especially when lugging a chariot up hill into a head wind at a snail's pace.
If I see traffic piling up, I pull over and wait for it to clear. It takes me an extra 30 seconds to save 10 people a minute or two. I also feel safer without the risk of someone in a hurry making a dangerous pass.
When on the highway I always appreciate the slow guy holding up traffic on a single lane highway recognizing it and pulling over to let everyone pass. Again, also safer than someone getting frustrated and making a risky single lane pass.
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It'll never happen but it would be nice if Elbow, Bonaventure/Fairmount and Acadia had bike lanes.
Riding on the sidewalk isnt safe when there's lots of driveways and large trees like this stretch.
I guess it's ignorant of her not to walk it, but it's her right. Winter's usually only four months, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I wonder if the cyclist in question, before consciously consuming the entire lane, had a few car whiz right by her elbow. Nothing scarier when conditions are a bit greasy.
As a year-round cycle commuter, I hate being "that guy" that impedes traffic during inclement weather, but I will take the lane sparingly.
I can certainly see how the traffic being impeding for 650 metres would be a little frustrating for the trailing cars.
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