Tom Wilson KOs Oleksiak - UPD: Oleksiak is dealing with a concussion.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by woob

I can’t wait until fighting is gone from the NHL. What a waste of time.

As soon as referees call games appropriately and consistently, we can get rid of fighting. Until then, it's a necessary evil, and that's coming from someone who has been completely converted to the anti-fighting brigade. The Tom Wilsons will never learn, and the DOPS needs to handle players like that, but the Matt Dumba's and Jacob Trouba's of the league need it occasionally to remind them to play a clean game that respects the other players. It's rarely needed these days, but it's still needed now and then.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Scum move by Wilson, not a damn thing wrong with that hit. It wasn’t even a big hit. Such a scummy player

Did you actually watch the game or previous Caps/Pens games this year? Its pretty silly to make comments like that when for all we know Oleksiak had done something previously to warrant an altercation. I'm guessing most of us don't know if there's a backstory (and there probably is). Fighting is part of the rules and I see this no differently than Lomberg jumping Dumba a few games back. Was that a scum move as well?

EDIT: It definitely was a response to a previous incident and being called out for not dropping the mitts by Oleksiak/GM. Wilson has made some bad plays, but this was certainly not one of them.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Did you actually watch the game or previous Caps/Pens games this year? Its pretty silly to make comments like that when for all we know Oleksiak had done something previously to warrant an altercation. I'm guessing most of us don't know if there's a backstory (and there probably is). Fighting is part of the rules and I see this no differently than Lomberg jumping Dumba a few games back. Was that a scum move as well?

......... well, he was suspended for it.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

Wilson is simply protecting his team. Oldtime hockey i like it.

FFS, have you even seen Slapshot?!?!

This is a big gear grinder for me.
That's not what "Old time hockey" means.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

......... well, he was suspended for it.

Yeah for instigating in the final 5 minutes of a game, not for the actual act of fighting......I'm really not sure how anyone can turn the tables on players for fighting when it is literally part of the rules.

[Weitz]

I think the Pens GM is a little to blame here with his comments last year about how Wilson runs when he hears Oleksiaks footsteps.

“When Jamie challenged Wilson, he couldn’t run quick enough to get away from him,” Rutherford told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette during an interview on a variety of topics Monday morning, adding that having Reaves would’ve “offset” Wilson’s physical play.

“Until, of course, the referees get in close, then [Wilson] comes back and says something to him.”

[EldrickOnIce]

I prefer to not celebrate brain injuries.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Did you actually watch the game or previous Caps/Pens games this year? Its pretty silly to make comments like that when for all we know Oleksiak had done something previously to warrant an altercation. I'm guessing most of us don't know if there's a backstory (and there probably is). Fighting is part of the rules and I see this no differently than Lomberg jumping Dumba a few games back. Was that a scum move as well?

EDIT: It definitely was a response to a previous incident and being called out for not dropping the mitts by Oleksiak/GM. Wilson has made some bad plays, but this was certainly not one of them.

I don’t care if they have history, that’s not my issue. My issue is that I believe he blindsided him with that fight and didn’t challenge him to a proper fight but caught him off guard as he was trying to get back in position

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I prefer to not celebrate brain injuries.

I don't think anyone has celebrated this incident. Stop grandstanding.

There's a huge difference between celebrating a brain injury and holding posters to account for calling a legal fight a 'scum move'.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I don't think anyone has celebrated this incident. Stop grandstanding.

There's a huge difference between celebrating a brain injury and holding posters to account for calling a legal fight a 'scum move'.

Holding posters to account for viewing the play differently? Ok... seems to be split 50/50 in this thread on wether it was a cheap move by Wilson. I think you are falling to see that while they may of had beef there’s a proper way to challenge someone to a fight and then there’s the way Tom Wilson did it.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I don't think anyone has celebrated this incident. Stop grandstanding.

There's a huge difference between celebrating a brain injury and holding posters to account for calling a legal fight a 'scum move'.

The incident, which resulted in brain injury, is celebrated throughout this thread. I prefer not to.
If this is grandstanding, I happily take the stage.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I don’t care if they have history, that’s not my issue. My issue is that I believe he blindsided him with that fight and didn’t challenge him to a proper fight but caught him off guard as he was trying to get back in position

There are literally hundreds of fights in this league that start exactly like this one did. Nothing to take issue with unless you're going to start taking this stance with every fight. That kind of challenge thing you're seeking is merely reserved for organized, meathead, face-punching.

Oleksiak got tagged and should have been ready for this, especially after apparently running his mouth and taking shots at Wilson through the media.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

The incident, which resulted in brain injury, is celebrated throughout this thread. I prefer not to.
If this is grandstanding, I happily take the stage.

Celebrated by who? One guy has said he likes old-time hockey. I haven't yet read one post reading anything remotely close to celebrating the issue.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

There are literally hundreds of fights in this league that start exactly like this one did. Nothing to take issue with unless you're going to start taking this stance with every fight. That kind of challenge thing you're seeking is merely reserved for organized, meathead, face-punching.

Oleksiak got tagged and should have been ready for this, especially after apparently running his mouth and taking shots at Wilson through the media.

Did he make any shots through the media or was it just the GM? Doesn’t matter to me as I don’t really care about any of that . Would you rather players be blindsided by a fight the way Wilson did it and not properly square up to an even tilt? That’s a meathead way of fighting? Clearly you have never taken a martial arts class.

Most fights do not start like this

https://youtu.be/t7tZpoCfqIc

These are the fights from this season, the vast majority if not all did not start with a player skating after another and blindsiding him with a fight. Also known as picking your spot, also known as a scum move which is not surprising given the player we are talking about.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

I don't think anyone has celebrated this incident. Stop grandstanding.

There's a huge difference between celebrating a brain injury and holding posters to account for calling a legal fight a 'scum move'.

Why do people keep saying this? As far as I can recall fighting still always results in penalty majors for both players involved.

[dustygoon]

I can't believe what a 180 i've made over last decade on this stuff. Maybe it's because i'm a dad. But seeing that punch land on Oleksiak makes me ill knowing that it isn't something you shake off like i used to think. I feel awful for him (pens GM probably feeling some guilt).

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

There are literally hundreds of fights in this league that start exactly like this one did. Nothing to take issue with unless you're going to start taking this stance with every fight. That kind of challenge thing you're seeking is merely reserved for organized, meathead, face-punching.

Oleksiak got tagged and should have been ready for this, especially after apparently running his mouth and taking shots at Wilson through the media.

That's exactly what some of us are doing.
Fighting is unnecessary, and shouldn't be part of the game knowing what we do about brain injuries
That fact that it is still a part of the game will be something looked back upon with a great deal of shame.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Did he make any shots through the media or was it just the GM? Doesn’t matter to me, so you would rather players be blindsided by a fight the way Wilson did it and not properly square up in an even tilt. Got it.

This really seems like more of a personal bias you have against a player than anything else. This kind of fight is not uncommon or at all questioned as scummy on most occasions.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That's exactly what some of us are doing.
Fighting is unnecessary, and shouldn't be part of the game knowing what we do about brain injuries
That fact that it is still a part of the game will be something looked back upon with a great deal of shame.

By who?

[bax]

I can't believe how riled up this board gets over Tom Wilson considering he has never really impacted the Flames in anyway.

Both guys knew before the game they were going to go. They both drop the gloves and Wilson gets the better of Oleksiak. Move on people, not every play involving Wilson is a cheap shot.