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Old 12-07-2018, 02:01 PM   #81
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Thank you! Now I know how I argue , you are the best!

Providing a meaningless stat about shots means nothing. Shooting at a goalies chest 20 times means less than 1 breakaway.


Shots are meaningless, didn’t realize. Now, here’s the part where you provide evidence that McDavid gets more breakaways against Backlund than other teams shutdown centres. I’ll wait.
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Shots are meaningless, didn’t realize. Now, here’s the part where you provide evidence that McDavid gets more breakaways against Backlund than other teams shutdown centres. I’ll wait.
You are going to wait? Okay, don't move. I will get something for you!

That was not my argument. The original post talked about Jankowski playing 50% of the defense against McDavid as Backlund does. I really don't think Jankowski is going to be any worse than Backlund in a shutdown role. He is not half the defensive forward as Backlund. I like Backlund and think he is a great player. I also think he is definitely overrated by Flames fans.

That being said, they will still both look like clowns a few times every time they play against the Flames.

As for shots, yes I would rather take 1 breakaway than 20 shots at the goalies chest

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Old 12-07-2018, 02:14 PM   #83
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You are going to wait? Okay, don't move. I will get something for you!

That was not my argument. The original post talked about Jankowski playing 50% of the defense against McDavid as Backlund does. I really don't think Jankowski is going to be any worse than Backlund in a shutdown role. He is not half the defensive forward as Backlund. I like Backlund and think he is a great player. I also think he is definitely overrated by Flames fans.

That being said, they will still both look like clowns a few times every time they play against the Flames.

As for shots, yes I would rather take 1 breakaway than 20 shots at the goalies chest

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Backlund has shown that he is this teams best defensive centre. It is safe to assume Jankowski will have difficulty filling his role, especially vs McDavid. Backlund is regarded league wide as a top two way player, he has been in the selke conversation before. So not really overrated by Flames fans.

As for shots hitting the chest? Where are you getting that from? The shot metrics that were referred to count all shots, not just muffins to the goalie’s chest


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You are going to wait? Okay, don't move. I will get something for you!

That was not my argument. The original post talked about Jankowski playing 50% of the defense against McDavid as Backlund does. I really don't think Jankowski is going to be any worse than Backlund in a shutdown role. He is not half the defensive forward as Backlund. I like Backlund and think he is a great player. I also think he is definitely overrated by Flames fans.

That being said, they will still both look like clowns a few times every time they play against the Flames.

As for shots, yes I would rather take 1 breakaway than 20 shots at the goalies chest

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You totally took an undeserved shot at Backlund with this, "The one where McDavid constantly gets breakaways and makes him look pretty foolish?"

What games have you been watching?

McDavid has not made Backlund look foolish. Backlund has shadowed McDavid very well and he will be totally missed on Saturday vs the Oilers.
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As for shots hitting the chest? Where are you getting that from? The shot metrics that were referred to count all shots, not just muffins to the goalie’s chest.
Oh, but you see, every shot ever taken by Backlund's line is a muffin to the goalie's chest, whereas every shot ever taken by the line that's out against them is a breakaway. 'Cos keenan87 said so. He don't need no steenkin' evidence.
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Oh, but you see, every shot ever taken by Backlund's line is a muffin to the goalie's chest, whereas every shot ever taken by the line that's out against them is a breakaway. 'Cos keenan87 said so. He don't need no steenkin' evidence.
That is correct! My God, you learn fast great work buddy!
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That is correct! My God, you learn fast great work buddy!
You only think you're being sarcastic.

The fact of the matter is, you made a completely unsupported assertion that Backlund's shot metrics vs. McDavid don't count as evidence because his line's shots are of much lower quality. The onus is on you to present countering evidence. Back it up or retract it, bucko.
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You totally took an undeserved shot at Backlund with this, "The one where McDavid constantly gets breakaways and makes him look pretty foolish?"

What games have you been watching?

McDavid has not made Backlund look foolish. Backlund has shadowed McDavid very well and he will be totally missed on Saturday vs the Oilers.
You know, I appreciate your posts and that is a fair statement. I feel like McDavid gets tons of high danger chances when he plays against the Flames. I would assume Backlund is on the ice against him. Generally, McDavid gets points against the Flames too.

I am just personally not very high on Backlund because he has yet to be an impact during a playoff series. Guys like Kesler and Bergeron are key contributors during the playoffs and I dont think backlund is that. Good player but not someone the team is going to suffer dearly without.
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Oh, but you see, every shot ever taken by Backlund's line is a muffin to the goalie's chest, whereas every shot ever taken by the line that's out against them is a breakaway. 'Cos keenan87 said so. He don't need no steenkin' evidence.
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You only think you're being sarcastic.

The fact of the matter is, you made a completely unsupported assertion that Backlund's shot metrics vs. McDavid don't count as evidence because his line's shots are of much lower quality. The onus is on you to present countering evidence. Back it up or retract it, bucko.
You are right.. every shot Backlund takes is a howitzer! I am so sorry sir.. I retract, i retract!

Anyone who watches the Flames knows that Backlund doesnt create his own office neither does he have a strong shot.
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Oh! Since you replied to my post, I thought you were making fun of me, and I couldn't figure out why.
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You are right.. every shot Backlund takes is a howitzer! I am so sorry sir.. I retract, i retract!
Fallacy of excluded middle. And you still haven't provided any evidence in support of your assertions.
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Comeon man.. I am just sitting here lonely looking for some attention. I am so glad the Internet is finally brightening my day.. the least you can do is post pictures and talk about me more! (Oh, you already are)
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Fallacy of excluded middle. And you still haven't provided any evidence in support of your assertions.
What more do you want. You gave me two choices and I selected one.
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Fallacy of excluded middle. And you still haven't provided any evidence in support of your assertions.

He doesn't need to duh. His evidence is that McDavid gets scoring chances and points against the Flames and that means Backlund is overrated.



I will believe him when he shows McDavid performs better than his average against the Flames.
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You are right.. every shot Backlund takes is a howitzer! I am so sorry sir.. I retract, i retract!

Anyone who watches the Flames knows that Backlund doesnt create his own office neither does he have a strong shot.
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