[News] Caps Tom Wilson back at it

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Whether there is an injury on the play or not should have ZERO bearing on whether or not there is a suspension. The intent of the action matters most, which I think we can all say that there is clear intent to at least rough the player up a little. The inability to conduct yourself on the ice in a respectful and safe matter matters next (blindside, predatory, puck nowhere near the play, whiplashing the neck). Lastly, the context of whether or not it's a hockey play should have some weight. That's not a hockey play, that's a guy sending a message to a guy that had some great chances to score. It's not dissimilar to the Petterson/Matheson situation earlier where the guy is tired of getting embarrassed and take a physical play too far.

There's too many boxes checked here to simply ignore it. Throw in the fact that he's a repeat offender with an egregious record of horrible hits and you have to suspend him here. 10-15 games. Keep doing it until he cleans things up. You can't have him on the ice with other players at the moment, and that's the job of player safety to make sure that it's relatively safe to play hockey against the Capitals.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Looked intentional to me. I mean, he’s trying to make it look like he’s just skating by but it’s intentional.

He goes through the guy and doesn’t look like he takes any contact. Stiff as a board, you have to lean into it to accomplish that no matter how big you are. Regardless of “looked like he tried to get out of the way”, he’s fully engaged and makes little effort to reduce the impact.

Wreckless play. Of course no one else would get a suspension here. But Wilson can’t seem to go 10 games without rocking someone with an avoidable, dirty, play.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
WSH has been told there will be no @NHLPlayerSafety hearing for Tom Wilson’s hit last night.

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nm

[Patek23]

Figured. If it wasn’t Wilson it would of been 2 minute interference penalty at most and wouldn’t of even made the highlight reels. Much ado about nothing.

[chummer]

No surprise, the right call.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah that one is tough.

Because the result looked worse than the actual action, and because it was Wilson.

He didn’t really change his stride, didn’t go out of his way to make contact, and appeared to just be tracking the puck instead of the player.

I’m still kinda surprised there was no action just because of his history though

[flamesfan1297]

Right call. If it wasn't Wilson we wouldn't even have a discussion about it

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

Figured. If it wasn’t Wilson it would of been 2 minute interference penalty at most and wouldn’t of even made the highlight reels. Much ado about nothing.

No. It is something, and so precisely because of Tom Wilson's history, which is starting to look pathological:

· 27 March, 2015 — fined $2,000
· 29 April, 2016 — fined $2,403
· 23 September, 2017 — suspended 2 games
· 3 October, 2017 — suspended 4 games, fined $97,560
· 2 May, 2018 — suspended 3 playoff games
· 3 October, 2018 — suspended 20 games (reduced to 14), fined $1,260,000

You are right. Any other player delivered that hit and he likely gets some benefit of doubt. But Tom Wilson absolutely should not. It's pretty clear that he is a dangerous player who appears unwilling to change his game to help ensure the safety of other players. For the NHL to step away from this sends a bad message, I think. Does anyone have any doubt that we see Wilson tossed from another game for a much more dangerous play before this season is over? Why would we be happy to wait for him to badly injure another player before taking action?

This is all very disappointing.

[Erick Estrada]

No matter. It’s only a matter of time with this guy. I hope when the next one comes that the player won’t be seriously hurt but it’s coming. The guy has a problem and as we have seen before with guys like this they cant help themselves.

[dino7c]

Meanwhile there was an actual bad hit in the Avs game last night

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I am pretty sure if I was in Wilson's situation in my bear league (and I am not a pro but a reasonable amateur), I would have easily skated around him, without any issue at all. In my league, it is called respect. What Wilson did is dangerous and disrespectful to someone else's safety.

Pretty sure the NHL is a little more intense than your bear league

[Patek23]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. It is something, and so precisely because of Tom Wilson's history, which is starting to look pathological:

· 27 March, 2015 — fined $2,000
· 29 April, 2016 — fined $2,403
· 23 September, 2017 — suspended 2 games
· 3 October, 2017 — suspended 4 games, fined $97,560
· 2 May, 2018 — suspended 3 playoff games
· 3 October, 2018 — suspended 20 games (reduced to 14), fined $1,260,000

You are right. Any other player delivered that hit and he likely gets some benefit of doubt. But Tom Wilson absolutely should not. It's pretty clear that he is a dangerous player who appears unwilling to change his game to help ensure the safety of other players. For the NHL to step away from this sends a bad message, I think. Does anyone have any doubt that we see Wilson tossed from another game for a much more dangerous play before this season is over? Why would we be happy to wait for him to badly injure another player before taking action?

This is all very disappointing.

Don’t know what your disputing? I clearly said that yes he has a history of poor choices but this one obviously wasn’t by the fact nothing mores come of it other then the penalty (which was insanely overblown). If Bennett did this it wouldn’t get a second blink after the game. So yes it’s much ado about nothing.

Wilson has obviously earned the stigma he will certainly carry for a while and will have to work hard to lose. But all the “back at it again, get him out of the league” crowd need to take a big breath and relax cause this ain’t it.

[Resolute 14]

The hit, in isolation, is much ado about nothing. For anyone else, that's likely an interference minor.

What is problematic is that Wilson still feels like he needs to come at players from the blind side. And as long as he does that, it's only a matter of time before he clips a guy in the head - yet again - rather than the shoulder, as happened here.

I'd be a little surprised if Wilson gets more than the match penalty for this one.

[cral12]

Telegraphed Idiocy.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

No. It is something, and so precisely because of Tom Wilson's history, which is starting to look pathological:

· 27 March, 2015 — fined $2,000
· 29 April, 2016 — fined $2,403
· 23 September, 2017 — suspended 2 games
· 3 October, 2017 — suspended 4 games, fined $97,560
· 2 May, 2018 — suspended 3 playoff games
· 3 October, 2018 — suspended 20 games (reduced to 14), fined $1,260,000

You are right. Any other player delivered that hit and he likely gets some benefit of doubt. But Tom Wilson absolutely should not. It's pretty clear that he is a dangerous player who appears unwilling to change his game to help ensure the safety of other players. For the NHL to step away from this sends a bad message, I think. Does anyone have any doubt that we see Wilson tossed from another game for a much more dangerous play before this season is over? Why would we be happy to wait for him to badly injure another player before taking action?

This is all very disappointing.

This is pure nonsense.

It's either an action that requires further discipline or it's not.

This did not....end of story.

This looks way worse than it was because of size difference. So what you are saying is that because Wilson is 50 lbs bigger than this Seney guy, he should be punished because he is bigger.

It's like claiming a guy who was convicted previously for violent robberies, gets thrown back in jail because he jaywalked.

This play happens all the time in hockey, it is usually left alone and if it is called its a 2 minute minor for interference. Hockey is a contact sport, at least for now, and stuff like this has to be allowed without further discipline or else just legislate hitting out of the game alltogether. That is a separate conversation though.

In this case though, there is absolutely much ado about a nothing play.

Wilson may or may not hve transgressions moving forward that require further actions, but this was not that.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The hit, in isolation, is much ado about nothing. For anyone else, that's likely an interference minor.

What is problematic is that Wilson still feels like he needs to come at players from the blind side. And as long as he does that, it's only a matter of time before he clips a guy in the head - yet again - rather than the shoulder, as happened here.

I'd be a little surprised if Wilson gets more than the match penalty for this one.

I will be surprised if the match penalty isnt rescinded.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

This is pure nonsense.

It's either an action that requires further discipline or it's not.

This did not....end of story.

This looks way worse than it was because of size difference. So what you are saying is that because Wilson is 50 lbs bigger than this Seney guy, he should be punished because he is bigger.

It's like claiming a guy who was convicted previously for violent robberies, gets thrown back in jail because he jaywalked.

This play happens all the time in hockey, it is usually left alone and if it is called its a 2 minute minor for interference. Hockey is a contact sport, at least for now, and stuff like this has to be allowed without further discipline or else just legislate hitting out of the game alltogether. That is a separate conversation though.

In this case though, there is absolutely much ado about a nothing play.

Wilson may or may not hve transgressions moving forward that require further actions, but this was not that.

But, it's not a hockey play at all. This is not some unfortunate part of hockey being a contact sport, which I feel we can all accept to some extent, this is intentional physical punishment on an unsuspecting player away from the hockey play. While he didn't target the head, he had an opportunity to punish a smaller player that was playing well against his team that night, and he took the opportunity to try and hurt him while he was looking the other way.

It might be just me, but that kind of stuff has NEVER been ok in hockey, and those are the guys that you'd be happy to have an enforcer around for. Take him out to the woodshed for making cowardly, cheap, and dirty plays targeting skilled players. Oh for a Brian McGrattan in the league.

The guy is a bigger version of Marchand. A rat through and through. If the league doesn't want fighting around, they need to punish these types of plays and players severely and often. There's just no place in the game for stuff like this.

Again, it's simply NOT a hockey play.

[YYC in LAX]

Some absolute clowns in this community

[Flames Draft Watcher]

We’ve seen many worse hits go uncalled vs the Flames. Some crazy overreactions in this thread