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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #81
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CP all summer long: "Peter Chiarelli is the worst GM in the league. Look at the dumb moves he's made, the mediocre roster, and the horrible cap situation. It's hard to imagine a GM worse than Chiarelli"

Pierre Dorion: "Hold my beer"
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #82
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Yikes.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #83
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One first rounder is pretty underwhelming. It's like the Hamonic trade with a roster player and prospect for a considerably better player. Tierney is a good player but they should have got more than this.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #84
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Thats the return for an unsigned Karlsson I think.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #85
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If you're a Sens fan how on Earth do you buy season tickets after this abortion? What a joke.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:36 PM   #86
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That's a terrible return, Norris doesn't even look like more than a third liner.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:37 PM   #87
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Are they renting him or extending him is the question.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:37 PM   #88
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Jesus, that's barely more than we paid for Hamonic. Dorion is bad at this.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:37 PM   #89
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Does Wilson loose any trades?
Not with Ottawa...
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Ottawa’s Atlantic Division rival sent a 2019 second-round pick and fourth- and fifth-round selections in this year’s draft to the Sharks for Hoffman and a seventh-round pick in this week’s draft. Earlier, the Senators traded Hoffman, prospect defenceman Cody Donaghey and a 2020 fifth-round selection to San Jose for winger Mikkel Boedker, defenceman Julius Bergman and a 2020 sixth-round pick.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:37 PM   #90
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This isn't going to help the Sens sell more season tickets. Pretty grim.


Good luck selling this to the fans.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:37 PM   #91
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First is a 2020.
Awful deal
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #92
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Full trade:

To SJ:

Erik Karlsson
Francis Perron

To Ottawa:
Chris Tierney
Dylan DeMelo
Josh Norris
Rudolf Balcers
2020 1st
2019 2nd
two conditional picks
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #93
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This looks a trade you'd make in an EA game to strip the AI of their best player.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #94
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Full trade:

To SJ:

Erik Karlsson
Francis Perron

To Ottawa:
Chris Tierney
Dylan DeMelo
Josh Norris
Rudolf Balcers
2020 1st
2019 2nd
two conditional picks
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #95
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So what would be the Flames equivalent?
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #96
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Karlsson, Burns, Vlasic...

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Old 09-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #97
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Feels like we paid more for Travis Hamonic. That return is brutal
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:40 PM   #98
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If you are getting 6 pieces for 1 you are probably losing the deal.

Nobody is giving up 6 pieces of actual value in a deal.
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Full trade:

To SJ:

Erik Karlsson
Francis Perron

To Ottawa:
Chris Tierney
Dylan DeMelo
Josh Norris
Rudolf Balcers
2020 1st
2019 2nd
two conditional picks

What are the conditions on the picks? Could significantly swing the value of the trade.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:40 PM   #100
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So:

Chris Tierney (40 pt C, 24 years old)
Dylan DeMelo (25 year old defensive Dman)
Josh Norris (2017 1st rounder),
Rudolfs Balcers (2015 5th rounder),
2020 1st,
2019 2nd,
2 conditional picks.

I saw one unverified claim that the conditional picks are:
- a 2021 2nd which can become a 1st if the Sharks re-sign him and make the finals
- a 2021 or 2022 1st if Karlsson plays for an Eastern team this season
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