02-26-2018, 01:47 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Still the point remains Calgary couldn't even come close to this...which is what I was responding to
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Ah I see - thought you were saying Namestikinov was better than Miller.
I think they could get somewhat close just need to push out the draft picks a year - probably works out to:
Ferland, Dube, Kylington, 2019 1st, 2020 conditional 2nd
With the Flames already making the Hamonic trade in the offseason it's not a pretty outcome from our end though. Also don't really need the d-men.
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02-26-2018, 01:48 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Two 1sts is only if they win the cup. In any case the other will be damn near a 2nd rounder.
I think this is great value. Miller and Mcdonough are both young and both have contract left. I think Miller > Namestnikov personally.
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The point being we don't have a 1st or a Namestnikov to trade...he would be 4th in scoring on the Flames
It may work out for Tampa...maybe not
Has absolutely nothing to do with the Flames
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02-26-2018, 01:49 PM
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#83
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Brodie + Rasmus Andersson + Dube + 2019 first.
That is a better offer IMO.
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02-26-2018, 01:49 PM
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#84
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Anduril
Don't get why people feel like we should have been on this. We're fighting for our lives to make the playoffs and that's already after making big purchases earlier in the season.
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agreed... also, while there's a ton of D prospects in the system, there's no one like Namestikov, which is something the rangers wanted as a part of the puzzle...
howden was a first round pick, TB gave up another #1 and might have to add another #1 (or second)...
TB can do this because of great drafting and talent development
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02-26-2018, 01:49 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Brodie + Rasmus Andersson + Dube + 2019 first.
That is a better offer IMO.
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For McDonagh and JT Miller? No thanks, I'd rather keep all those pieces.
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02-26-2018, 01:51 PM
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#86
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Brodie + Rasmus Andersson + Dube + 2019 first.
That is a better offer IMO.
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for who lol
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02-26-2018, 01:51 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
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This trade illustrates the organization gap between between a team like Tampa and the Flames.
Just a grand canyon difference in terms of organizational depth. The equivalent of moving Ferland + picks and the team got better.
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02-26-2018, 01:53 PM
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#88
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
For McDonagh and JT Miller? No thanks, I'd rather keep all those pieces.
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Mediocrity it is then!
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02-26-2018, 01:53 PM
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#89
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Brodie + Rasmus Andersson + Dube + 2019 first.
That is a better offer IMO.
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That's absolutely terrible for the Flames long term.
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02-26-2018, 01:53 PM
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#90
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Yeah, seems like Rangers got robbed. Basically Ferland plus what we traded for Hamonic.
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02-26-2018, 01:54 PM
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#91
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So McDonagh is reunited with Girardi who he was a pairing with in NY....which allows Sergachev to play the bottom pairing and PP. Someone gets injured? Brayden Coburn sitting there waiting.
Just ridiculous depth.
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02-26-2018, 01:55 PM
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#92
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
This trade illustrates the organization gap between between a team like Tampa and the Flames.
Just a grand canyon difference in terms of organizational depth. The equivalent of moving Ferland + picks and the team got better.
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Yeah it really shows the quality of TB's drafting and developing when a guy like Hajek who doesn't even make their top-10 prospects is considered a major piece in a trade for McDonagh.
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02-26-2018, 01:58 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Looked like Yzerman may have waited for Dorion to blink before pulling the trigger:
Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski
Told the Ryan McDonagh trade was in fact a last minute deal: Agreed upon at 2:59 p.m. ET.
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02-26-2018, 01:59 PM
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#94
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Mediocrity it is then!
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Constantly trading picks is what gets you to mediocrity.
There is no point for the Flames to trade for McDonagh at this point in time. Yes he makes you better now, but you're paying for it down the road. This has been a weakness of Flames management for a while now.
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02-26-2018, 02:02 PM
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#95
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Originally Posted by Kovaz
Yeah it really shows the quality of TB's drafting and developing when a guy like Hajek who doesn't even make their top-10 prospects is considered a major piece in a trade for McDonagh.
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They have drafted in the top 10 five times in 10 years
including 1st, 2nd, and 3rd overall...I think its easier to tank every other year in a non hockey market
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02-26-2018, 02:04 PM
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#96
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Wonder if Tampa wanted Hoffman + Karlsson from Ottawa, considering they went after Miller + McDonagh
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02-26-2018, 02:05 PM
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#97
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They are likely playing Boston in round 2...I don't think them winning the east is a forgone conclusion
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02-26-2018, 02:11 PM
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Scoring Winger
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New York Rangers 2018 Draft Picks
1st Round
- Bruins (Rick Nash)
- Lightning (McDonagh)
- Rangers
2nd Round
- Devils (Grabner)
- Rangers
3rd Round
- Bruins (Holden)
- Rangers
Last edited by JackJack; 02-26-2018 at 02:21 PM.
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02-26-2018, 02:14 PM
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Closet Jedi
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Looks like a win-win deal. Given Tampa's window, they can afford to give up picks for this year and the next. McDonagh is a stud. JT Miller is much better piece than Namestnikov.
NYR got a bunch of picks and prospects; they don't need McDonagh given their direction.
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02-26-2018, 02:14 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackJack
New York Rangers 2018 Draft Picks
1st Round
- Bruins (Rick Nash)
- Rangers
2nd Round
- Devils (Grabner)
- Rangers
3rd Round
- Bruins (Holden)
- Rangers
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And the Tampa 1st from this trade?
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