[News] Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr a line today at Flames practice

[MisterJoji]

Loving the 3rd line tonight

[DazzlinDino]

Smith has been refreshing! Great game!

[pepper24]

3rd line better tonight but still no points.


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[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

I wonder why...

Ah, right on cue. Speaking of things, if people are things, that have only gotten worse since I've got here...

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by Split98

Not in the least.

So, you honestly believe we should ve excited about Bennett because he "showed some flashes of brilliance" during the PREASON? Even though he has been terrible so far?

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[Split98]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

So, you honestly believe we should ve excited about Bennett because he "showed some flashes of brilliance" during the PREASON? Even though he has been terrible so far?

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You're a great example of what problem this site has right now. On a 1247 character post, 84 of those characters are what you want to comment on. with "Wow...this is just embarassing dude. I really hope you were being sarcastic." gems nonetheless.

I hope that ignoring people like you will help the pages of CP return to being a realistic place to discuss and read about my favourite team. You'd be surprised to know that I've also been critical of this team. It seems better now that I keep it to myself. While they're not perfect, the last thing this site needs is any more criticism when threads like 'GG tried a line we all want to see' is abundantly negative. You're a broken record of sadness.

What people like you need to learn, is that finding every flaw in the team does not make you a better fan. I actually don't know how people like you enjoy hockey TBH. I don't think any of the arguments you've made on this site have been honest evaluations of the team at all. Smothering every thread you can in negative garbage doesn't contribute to the conversation. This is a team that just beat the Capitals last night, and your contribution was this.

And yes, absolutely. I'm talking about the highest overall pick the Flames have had -- not Freddie. Flashes of brilliance from a player like Bennett is something to get excited about. Fans of the team should get excited about it. We can be disappointed that he hasn't translated that yet, but why do you find it more acceptable to not be excited about it? Why do you find POVs like that 'embarrassing', dude?

[PepsiFree]

Great post Split. Great string of posts actually. We can all disagree, but if we can’t even recognise that FOI is the place nearly every member on this board should feel part of a fun community, then something is lost along the way.

It’s one thing to be critical of the team, anyone looking with a close eye can find those things, but why people have to make things so negative and vitriolic against their fellow Flames fans when talking about the one thing we can all agree to like is beyond a lot of us.

FOI needs more posts like yours, Split. More posts interested in having fun and being hopeful.

[EldrickOnIce]

Regarding practice lines, Let's not forget that Jagr was brought in, in part, to mentor some of these young guys.
Who better to have practicing together than the Flames latest AHL call-up, the young player the Flames most need to get producing, and the old GOAT?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Regarding practice lines, Let's not forget that Jagr was brought in, in part, to mentor some of these young guys.
Who better to have practicing together than the Flames latest AHL call-up, the young player the Flames most need to get producing, and the old GOAT?

Jagr was shown to mentor both Tkachuk and Gaudreau early on when he arrived. Which forwards are doing well on this team again?

Jankowski is the ideal candidate for Jagr to mentor. He has size, reach, and skill. All things that Jagr has. All things that Jagr mentored Barkov on. Holy hell, if Jankowski becomes even a shadow of the type of player Barkov is, we won't care at ALL if Bennett tops out as a 3rd line winger.

That being said, I hope Bennett gets a LOT of time with Jagr. He needs someone to help him out right now. He's fighting everything and overthinking most things. He's trying moves that worked in junior because nothing else is working for him. He needs Jagr to calm him down and point out where to be on the ice to get the best chances.

I hope that Treliving figures out a way to keep Jankowski up here. I'm not sure he can get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. Nevermind, I KNOW he won't get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. IF they want to develop Jankowski into a top 2 center, they should keep him up.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr
Versteeg/Glass-Lazar-Brouwer
Hamilton

[kukkudo]

Hopefully we see some players on waivers this week. My picks Glass and Hamilton.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Jagr was shown to mentor both Tkachuk and Gaudreau early on when he arrived. Which forwards are doing well on this team again?

Jankowski is the ideal candidate for Jagr to mentor. He has size, reach, and skill. All things that Jagr has. All things that Jagr mentored Barkov on. Holy hell, if Jankowski becomes even a shadow of the type of player Barkov is, we won't care at ALL if Bennett tops out as a 3rd line winger.

That being said, I hope Bennett gets a LOT of time with Jagr. He needs someone to help him out right now. He's fighting everything and overthinking most things. He's trying moves that worked in junior because nothing else is working for him. He needs Jagr to calm him down and point out where to be on the ice to get the best chances.

I hope that Treliving figures out a way to keep Jankowski up here. I'm not sure he can get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. Nevermind, I KNOW he won't get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. IF they want to develop Jankowski into a top 2 center, they should keep him up.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr
Versteeg/Glass-Lazar-Brouwer
Hamilton

echos my thoughts well. I would be interested in seeing tkachuck on line one however. Partly because you can see the emotion that tkachuck drags backlund into which I think adds fire to backlunds game. Im not sure the same can be done with boringseanmonahan but god I would love seeing a fired up and emotional Monahan.

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by Split98

You're a great example of what problem this site has right now. On a 1247 character post, 84 of those characters are what you want to comment on. with "Wow...this is just embarassing dude. I really hope you were being sarcastic." gems nonetheless.

I hope that ignoring people like you will help the pages of CP return to being a realistic place to discuss and read about my favourite team. You'd be surprised to know that I've also been critical of this team. It seems better now that I keep it to myself. While they're not perfect, the last thing this site needs is any more criticism when threads like 'GG tried a line we all want to see' is abundantly negative. You're a broken record of sadness.

What people like you need to learn, is that finding every flaw in the team does not make you a better fan. I actually don't know how people like you enjoy hockey TBH. I don't think any of the arguments you've made on this site have been honest evaluations of the team at all. Smothering every thread you can in negative garbage doesn't contribute to the conversation. This is a team that just beat the Capitals last night, and your contribution was this.

And yes, absolutely. I'm talking about the highest overall pick the Flames have had -- not Freddie. Flashes of brilliance from a player like Bennett is something to get excited about. Fans of the team should get excited about it. We can be disappointed that he hasn't translated that yet, but why do you find it more acceptable to not be excited about it? Why do you find POVs like that 'embarrassing', dude?

Well, we beat the Capitals, plan the parade everyone!

And you are a great example of another problem on this site. The type who just puts on his rose-colored glasses and think everything is fine and dandy.

Nobody should dare to have a different opinion than you.
Starting a thread that Gulutzan is a good HC - that's fine. Starting a thread with an opinion that he's not a good HC - that's not fine and you are dragging CP down...

People have different opinions than you. Most of those people have thoroughly answered and explained why they think the way they do (myself included). You may agree with them or not, that's fine. But you have no right to tell anyone that their opinion is wrong and that's what you (and others similar to you) are doing. Just because I or anyone else think differently than you, it doesn't make our opinions any less honest than yours. So get off your high horse.

What people like you need to learn is that blindly cheering and defending every move this team makes, doesn't make YOU a better fan.

As for the Bennett part...wow. Just wow.
How should we feel about his 0 points and him being one of the worst forwards so far this year?
How should we feel that he has regressed in his development?
Apparently, we should just focus on his "flashes of brilliance" during the preseason.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Great post Split. Great string of posts actually. We can all disagree, but if we can’t even recognise that FOI is the place nearly every member on this board should feel part of a fun community, then something is lost along the way.

It’s one thing to be critical of the team, anyone looking with a close eye can find those things, but why people have to make things so negative and vitriolic against their fellow Flames fans when talking about the one thing we can all agree to like is beyond a lot of us.

FOI needs more posts like yours, Split. More posts interested in having fun and being hopeful.

Wow, thank you.

You sure know how to turn around a Monday!

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Jagr was shown to mentor both Tkachuk and Gaudreau early on when he arrived. Which forwards are doing well on this team again?

Jankowski is the ideal candidate for Jagr to mentor. He has size, reach, and skill. All things that Jagr has. All things that Jagr mentored Barkov on. Holy hell, if Jankowski becomes even a shadow of the type of player Barkov is, we won't care at ALL if Bennett tops out as a 3rd line winger.

That being said, I hope Bennett gets a LOT of time with Jagr. He needs someone to help him out right now. He's fighting everything and overthinking most things. He's trying moves that worked in junior because nothing else is working for him. He needs Jagr to calm him down and point out where to be on the ice to get the best chances.

I hope that Treliving figures out a way to keep Jankowski up here. I'm not sure he can get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. Nevermind, I KNOW he won't get that kind of mentorship in Stockton. IF they want to develop Jankowski into a top 2 center, they should keep him up.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr
Versteeg/Glass-Lazar-Brouwer
Hamilton

Exactly this. If anything we saw in preseason from Bennett can start surfacing here we're in great shape. Jagr is the kind of guy to do it.

But I'm also really excited about the prospect of Jankowski getting a lot of time with the legend as well -- and the way Jankowski and Bennett play will also be something Jagr can work with. They can both drive the play into the offensive zone, and give Jagr a bit of time to find his spot.

I like Jagr on a lot of lines, but the development of those two could be incredibly important for our success down the road.

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Hopefully we see some players on waivers this week. My picks Glass and Hamilton.

Don't forget Bartkowski!

[theg69]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

Well, we beat the Capitals, plan the parade everyone!

And you are a great example of another problem on this site. The type who just puts on his rose-colored glasses and think everything is fine and dandy.

Nobody should dare to have a different opinion than you.
Starting a thread that Gulutzan is a good HC - that's fine. Starting a thread with an opinion that he's not a good HC - that's not fine and you are dragging CP down...

People have different opinions than you. Most of those people have thoroughly answered and explained why they think the way they do (myself included). You may agree with them or not, that's fine. But you have no right to tell anyone that their opinion is wrong and that's what you (and others similar to you) are doing. Just because I or anyone else think differently than you, it doesn't make our opinions any less honest than yours. So get off your high horse.

What people like you need to learn is that blindly cheering and defending every move this team makes, doesn't make YOU a better fan.

As for the Bennett part...wow. Just wow.
How should we feel about his 0 points and him being one of the worst forwards so far this year?
How should we feel that he has regressed in his development?
Apparently, we should just focus on his "flashes of brilliance" during the preseason.

I honestly don't think it is your viewpoint or issue that he has a problem with. It is the way you convey your viewpoint and combative your posts are.

Personally, I see merit in both side of the arguments and can find things on both sides that I agree with.

I think you just need to take a step back and relax. We all love the same team. There is nothing wrong to be optimistic of the team, just as there is nothing wrong to be critical of the team. It does not make anyone less of a fan.

Furthermore, I think the main issues that some posters take offense to some of the more critical posts is because they keep getting repeated ad nauseum in multiple threads, and does not stimulate much discussion.

Lastly, I have no issue with them trying that line in practice, because if they look good, I am sure management will find a way to make it happen. It also could be more of GG pointedly telling BT that this is the lineup he wants to ice in the near future when Jagr returns. I'm all for trying new looks in practice, because isn't that what practice is for?

[Torture]

I'm confused about how negative this thread is. Isn't Bennet - Jankowski - Jagr exactly what we wanted?
To me this signals that that Hamilton or Glass will be waived and Jankowski centers the third line after Jagr comes back.

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by theg69

I honestly don't think it is your viewpoint or issue that he has a problem with. It is the way you convey your viewpoint and combative your posts are.

Personally, I see merit in both side of the arguments and can find things on both sides that I agree with.

I think you just need to take a step back and relax. We all love the same team. There is nothing wrong to be optimistic of the team, just as there is nothing wrong to be critical of the team. It does not make anyone less of a fan.

Furthermore, I think the main issues that some posters take offense to some of the more critical posts is because they keep getting repeated ad nauseum in multiple threads, and does not stimulate much discussion.

Lastly, I have no issue with them trying that line in practice, because if they look good, I am sure management will find a way to make it happen. It also could be more of GG pointedly telling BT that this is the lineup he wants to ice in the near future when Jagr returns. I'm all for trying new looks in practice, because isn't that what practice is for?

Thanks for your well written and well thought out post.

I'm actually very optimistic about this team. I actually like our team and have defended the players numerous of times. Sure, there are some holes on the roster but overall, I think we have a very good core. I'm also a very big fan of Treliving.

It's the coaching I have a problem with and for some posters it's a very sore spot. For some very bizarre reason. Apparently, if you don't like the coach, you're not a very good fan....

ON TOPIC: This line actually has some potential, hopefully we see it on the ice.

[theg69]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

Thanks for your well written and well thought out post.

I'm actually very optimistic about this team. I actually like our team and have defended the players numerous of times. Sure, there are some wholes on the roster but overall, I think we have a very good core. I'm also a very big fan of Treliving.

It's the coaching I have a problem with and for some posters it's a very sore spot. For some very bizarre reason. Apparently, if you don't like the coach, you're not a very good fan....

ON TOPIC: This line actually has some potential, hopefully we see it on the ice.

No worries. You're very welcome.
I completely understand - what I have found useful is trying to not post when feeling too emotional about the team (especially after a loss).

It had definitely been a frustrating year overall outside of a few bright spots - and I feel that Bennett seems to be a microcosm of the team generally.

I am hoping that some players are on waivers the next couple of days so this line can happen (Glass or Hamilton). It makes so much sense on so many levels - I think this line can be deadly in the offensive zone on the cycle.

[Stanley]

I don't know what to think yet about the coaching...for all I know they'll go on a tear and we'll all be praising the coaching staff.

I do like how when they're on their game they're making quick assertive passes and getting creative, forechecking hard and keeping shots to the outside.

What I don't like about GG, is his quiet-ass on the bench...I dunno I like coaches that talk to players throughout the game and shout out from time-to-time...GG just stands there looking perplexed.

As for line management, I don't necessarily blame GG...IMO Treliving is to blame for part of that. GG isn't the one not willing to waive useless players like F. Hamilton...however i do think he could grow some balls and give Stajan some press box time here n there.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Stanley

I don't know what to think yet about the coaching...for all I know they'll go on a tear and we'll all be praising the coaching staff.

I do like how when they're on their game they're making quick assertive passes and getting creative, forechecking hard and keeping shots to the outside.

What I don't like about GG, is his quiet-ass on the bench...I dunno I like coaches that talk to players throughout the game and shout out from time-to-time...GG just stands there looking perplexed.

As for line management, I don't necessarily blame GG...IMO Treliving is to blame for part of that. GG isn't the one not willing to waive useless players like F. Hamilton...however i do think he could grow some balls and give Stajan some press box time here n there.

I don't think he is. I sit behind the Flames bench in the PLs and I can see him talking to players and yelling at refs when needed from up there. He has had an official at the bench a number of times before a face-off and you can see there is a conversation. Just because they don't show it on TV doesn't mean he just sits there. I think this is one of the bigger myths with GG.