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Old 06-23-2017, 07:19 PM   #81
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When people say "safe pick", are they saying low-ceiling as well?

His stats in junior are great and he looks pretty skilled with good size.
I think he has a high floor and decently high ceiling. Can be top 2, but probably will end up being a solid 3-4
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:20 PM   #82
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Size, skating ability, smart. I like those qualities. Fingers crossed.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:20 PM   #83
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When people say "safe pick", are they saying low-ceiling as well?

His stats in junior are great and he looks pretty skilled with good size.
Smart pick.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:21 PM   #84
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LOL -- mom is in tears while dad (who looks to be built like a tank) with a stone cold poker face.

I bet he'll better than Hamonic in a few years
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It seems it's been a long time since we took D in the first round. His rankings across different lists were very consistent in this range. Big player, good skater, offensive instincts, good defensively. What's not to like?
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Sounds like his upside is similar to what Oscar Klefbom is? Possibly more offensive upside?
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:23 PM   #87
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Just realized he has the same birthday as me. Cool cool cool.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:24 PM   #88
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Yay, more Finns! Pronunciation guide: You-So Valley-Mackey. Not too hard.

Seems like a safe pick with decent ceiling, and might not take too long to make it to the NHL. For a 16th OA I like it a lot.
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Love that we picked a d-man.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:25 PM   #91
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He looks like Tom Yates from House of Cards. That's all I know about the kid.
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He looks like Tom Yates from House of Cards. That's all I know about the kid.
Exactly who I was thinking...
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:29 PM   #93
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Wonder if teammates Morgan Geekie and Kyle Olson are on the Flames list for tomorrow.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:32 PM   #94
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Asked who he tries to model his game after, #Flames pick Juuso Valimaki answers Victor Hedman. Good choice.
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So the key here is that it's one of the safer picks you could have made. Expected prospect success is the metric that describes whether a player will have an NHL career - e.g., isn't going to bust. It's weighted but the assumption is that they play more than 100 games in an NHL sweater, by looking at players of similar size and position who scored at similar rates in similar situations.

Of the guys ranked as first round talents, Valikmaki ranks behind only* Gabe Vilardi, Nick Suzuki and Jason Robertson, with 65% of his cohorts going on to have NHL careers. And, of course, Vilardi and Suzuki were both gone by the time the Flames got to pick. Interestingly, Jesper Boqvist of the SHL, a second round ranked center, has a 78% success rate, but a low ceiling for production.

*There's an asterisk here as Cale Makar and Elias Pettersson don't have an expected success rating because they don't have any cohorts (Makar because the AJHL is total junk, and Pettersson because there haven't been enough 17 year olds in the Allsvenskan who have scored as much as he has to compare him to).
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trying to find contract information on Valimaki...

if he was loaned by his Finnish team to Tri City he will be eligible to play in the AHL next season. (Honka exemption to the NHL/CHL agreement)
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I don't know any of these guys but I'm happy they kept the pick and added another Defense prospect.

In three years he can be on the bottom pairing of a team making a Cup run. I think that's better than giving up picks and paying big $'s for a veteran.
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Do you think this pick was BPA, or addressing sending some other D prospects out? I understand they had plans on taking him but maybe with a plan?
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trying to find contract information on Valimaki...

if he was loaned by his Finnish team to Tri City he will be eligible to play in the AHL next season. (Honka exemption to the NHL/CHL agreement)


That would be awesome! To be able to start developing his pro game right away would be a nice surprise. He's got the frame, so it's all about developing the skill set at the pro level.
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Old 06-23-2017, 08:02 PM   #100
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trying to find contract information on Valimaki...

if he was loaned by his Finnish team to Tri City he will be eligible to play in the AHL next season. (Honka exemption to the NHL/CHL agreement)
I have no idea how that works, but I found that he signed a two-year contract with Ilves in May of 2015 if that helps...
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