"Snack Shaming"?! Is this a thing now?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

While not likely to be popular, there's a decent chance this opinion is just ahead of its time. If schools survive in their current form, a day will likely come where people look back on days of schools allowing unhealthy foods on their grounds and view them as being uninformed and backward.

Given the ever-changing trends in nutrition and food fads, that would be a farce. Should schools go full paleo and ditch the carbs and dairy? Maybe the principal just read Wheat Belly so bread is out. Heck, some diets discourage fruit because it's just another sugar-delivery mechanism.

Sensible nutrition isn't about banning food. It's about moderation.

The fact is, obesity is highly correlated with class. Families with poor eating habits tend to struggle in other areas, including academics. If they aren't getting their kids to bed on time, encouraging reading, or making sure homework gets done, it's hard to see how a school nutrition program will change their lifestyle around food. And the parents who do obey the rules and take an active role in their children's school life probably aren't feeding their kids cheetos and KFC day and night.

This would just be another program that inconveniences engaged parents, and does nothing to address the social ills that are at the root of unhealthy home life and bad choices.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Given the ever-changing trends in nutrition and food fads, that would be a farce. Should schools go full paleo and ditch the carbs and dairy? Maybe the principal just read Wheat Belly so bread is out. Heck, some diets discourage fruit because it's just another sugar-delivery mechanism.

Sensible nutrition isn't about banning food. It's about moderation.

The fact is, obesity is highly correlated with class. Families with poor eating habits tend to struggle in other areas, including academics. If they aren't getting their kids to bed on time, encouraging reading, or making sure homework gets done, it's hard to see how a school nutrition program will change their lifestyle around food. And the parents who do obey the rules and take an active role in their children's school life probably aren't feeding their kids cheetos and KFC day and night.

This would just be another program that inconveniences engaged parents, and does nothing to address the social ills that are at the root of unhealthy home life and bad choices.

Lots of schools used to have vending machines selling all kinds of sugary drinks, only to have those drinks disappear from campuses a few years later.

[Raekwon]

I find that schools are mixing special needs children with other kids a lot more these days. I'm not against it in any way but if they are going to continue this they need to make the kids aware and teach them about it.

My 6yo son tells me a kid has been hitting him and a friend of his, they told him to stop and let the teacher/daycare know. We tell him if a kid is hitting you and asking him to stop doesn't help its ok to physically stand up for yourself.

One day later on the way home from work the principal calls, he was involved in an incident as a bystander where a couple of other kids were trying to make the same kid that was hitting him put his face in the mud. They wanted to make us aware because this was not in our sons nature and he was only involved because he watched and didn't get a teacher. Turns out the kid was special needs. Once we confirmed with our son that it was the same kid that was hitting him we told him that he wasn't allowed to physically stand up against this kid anymore and had to explain why.

Kids will always find out that someone is different so be proactive and teach them how and why they may be different if you are going to mix them all together.

Edit: Sorry my story telling is bad when typing and often makes no sense because I keep typing and don't look through it.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Banana cake. It is banana cake. Flour, sugar, butter, banana, baking soda, egg.

Compare that with the ingredients for bread. Substitute oil and salt for butter and banana. Now we are onto the semantics of ingredient quantities.

This reminds me of a few years ago, I was buying "milk to go" flavoured milk, and some idiot was giving me heck- saying my kid should only drink white milk, etc. Doesn't matter that I was doing what was recommended by a doctor; nor the fact that my son would only drink 1 glass of white milk per week, but with the flavoured he'd drink 2-4 servings per day.

The mom didn't send a chocolate bar, and I wasn't substituting pop for milk.

[Erick Estrada]

I think the teacher should discuss this with the parents prior to sending the child to hallway exile for having banana bread as their healthy snack. I don't think it's fair to punish the child for a parental decision.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think the teacher should discuss this with the parents prior to sending the child to hallway exile for having banana bread as their healthy snack. I don't think it's fair to punish the child for a parental decision.

And without knowing all the facts about what happened prior this is the best way to look at it. The teacher handled this poorly and once again in the age of social media everyone gets to see and have an opinion on this. Autistic or not the child should not have been separated and this should have been resolved one way or another between the teacher and the parent.

[CliffFletcher]

Bread -----------Banana bread --------------------------------------------------Can of coke

If we draw the line between bread and banana bread, what else is going to be off-side? Grapes are basically sugar capsules. Those cheese and cracker packages probably don't make the cut either. Our school is having pizza day on Thursday - gotta think that would be on the chopping block.

Sorry, but I'm very wary of the zeal with which some people want to use whatever vehicle is at hand to impose their idealized human behaviour on others. And again, the only families who will follow the rules are generally disciplined and conscientious people anyway. Families who make really bad dietary and lifestyle choices aren't going to change just because of some school snack program.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Grapes are basically sugar capsules.

My god man, grapes? That's basically the same as sending your kid to school with a bottle of wine.

Hilarious the same day this goes viral is the same day one of the US states announces "snack-shaming" is illegal.

So yes slava, it's apparently a thing now.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Ha. This 'snack shaming' happened to our little one. My biochemistry PhD wife stopped by the school and questioned the administration on their understanding of the biochemical process that takes place within our body in breaking down anything we ingest. She ended with a nice power point slide presentation showing some simple, positive results from the physical and chemical processing by the body of some so called unhealthy foods.

Snack time has not been a problem since.

I've been told I'm condescending. (That means I talk down to people.)

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Bread -----------Banana bread --------------------------------------------------Can of coke

If we draw the line between bread and banana bread, what else is going to be off-side? Grapes are basically sugar capsules. Those cheese and cracker packages probably don't make the cut either. Our school is having pizza day on Thursday - gotta think that would be on the chopping block.

Sorry, but I'm very wary of the zeal with which some people want to use whatever vehicle is at hand to impose their idealized human behaviour on others. And again, the only families who will follow the rules are generally disciplined and conscientious people anyway. Families who make really bad dietary and lifestyle choices aren't going to change just because of some school snack program.

Fruits in general have fiber increasing with their sweetness. This slows digestion and creates the feeling of fullness to avoid over consumption. So attacking the grape likely doesn't make sense.

Education just makes so much more sense and this can be led by Cookie Monster. Cookies are a sometimes food. Teaching moderation rather than abstinence is likely a more effective method.

[Raekwon]

Originally Posted by GGG

Fruits in general have fiber increasing with their sweetness. This slows digestion and creates the feeling of fullness to avoid over consumption. So attacking the grape likely doesn't make sense.

Education just makes so much more sense and this can be led by Cookie Monster. Cookies are a sometimes food. Teaching moderation rather than abstinence is likely a more effective method.

Different fruits have different glycemic index rating meaning how fast the convert to sugar. After workouts high Gi fruits like watermelon are good to get quickly to the muscle but other times you want low gi fruit.

Nutrition isn't cut and dry and what people think is good and bad are not always correct and everyone is different. Exercise and portion control are king IMO.

[llwhiteoutll]

Portion control and knowing your own body's requirements is what is key.

Exercise is important, but you can't outrun a fork on the treadmill.

[polak]

K can someone explain to me how lunches work these days? Are you seriously not allowed to give your kid a fruit roll up in their lunches anymore?

[habernac]

As long as your kid goes to a school that isn't a prison, you can feed them whatever you like. My kids get treats in their lunches from time to time. Their teachers do not take these things away.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by habernac

As long as your kid goes to a school that isn't a prison, you can feed them whatever you like. My kids get treats in their lunches from time to time. Their teachers do not take these things away.

Both my kids have had teachers that give out candy in class. No lie!

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Both my kids have had teachers that give out candy in class. No lie!

Those monsters!

[polak]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Both my kids have had teachers that give out candy in class. No lie!

Haven't they heard?!

EVERY kid is obese now. How can they do that to these kids.

[Erick Estrada]

How has Halloween not been banned yet?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by habernac

As long as your kid goes to a school that isn't a prison, you can feed them whatever you like. My kids get treats in their lunches from time to time. Their teachers do not take these things away.

Looks like Apple schools haven't caught on in Calgary yet
http://www.appleschools.ca/
IIRC they're pretty strict on what can be brought in kids lunches.

[northcrunk]

Looks like 'big apple' has taken over our schools to sell more apples.