Shooting at mosque in Quebec City; several dead

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would argue in the days before instant internet news and Twitter. Where you had set periods where news came out that there was a lot more time to fact check and a lot more effort. Now these reporters run screaming to their twitter accounts and so do their news organizations. Because of that they give huge credibility to the concept of not necessarily false news, but untrustworthy news.

True.

But I also recall not that long ago, some people would criticize news outlets for being behind or not as fast as other networks.

Having instant information is consumer driven, and unfortunately so are most media outlets. It's difficult, if not impossible, to have a media outlet ruled by principles if money and viewership is their bottom line. You can have fast and you can have accurate, but you can't have both.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

True.

But I also recall not that long ago, some people would criticize news outlets for being behind or not as fast as other networks.

I certainly don't recall this at all.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

You can have fast and you can have accurate, but you can't have both.

Yep. This is what we get when we expect real-time reporting and minute-to-minute updates of stories. And when the traditional media in this country gives up the ghost, which is imminent, the accuracy of the reporting on these sorts of breaking stories will only get worse. Welcome to the future.

[llwhiteoutll]

Now four people are in custody, one of whom is a witness. And witnesses still report two shooters.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-ci...tody-1.3262679

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I certainly don't recall this at all.

I remember it during the election on another forum (and maybe this one too).

Some people said they were tuning into CTV for the results because CBC was "too slow", even though CTV ended up reversing many of their riding projections.

[TheIronMaiden]

For those of you who would like to show solidarity with the victims, or to help mourn there will be candlelight vigils in both Calgary
http://globalnews.ca/news/3213716/ca...terror-attack/
and Edmonton
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...igil-1.3957916
this evening.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I would argue in the days before instant internet news and Twitter. Where you had set periods where news came out that there was a lot more time to fact check and a lot more effort. Now these reporters run screaming to their twitter accounts and so do their news organizations. Because of that they give huge credibility to the concept of not necessarily false news, but untrustworthy news.

The internet certainly allows false or misleading sources to travel much faster than previous, just as accurate and correct sources do. But even old time news was prone to it. i.e.: after the Frank Slide, it was widely reported that virtually the entire town was wiped out. Even though that was totally incorrect, the belief persists today

[Ozy_Flame]

Reports now have Bissonette acting alone.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle33822092/

[CaptainCrunch]

This whole thing is getting really confusing because the stories were that Bissonette was arrested at the bridge and the other gentlemen at the Mosque. So I'm assuming that Bissonette did his shooting and left before the police arrived and went to the bridge and called the cops, and the other arrest at the mosque was a witness.

But then we had a report of two more arrests.

This whole thing is so weird.

[nik-]

Chaotic, fluid situation is chaotic and fluid.

[Bagor]

Why is a court clerk speaking to the press?

If she wasn't authorised to do so I'm guessing she could be an ex court clerk in the near future?

[peter12]

I'm calling mental illness on this one.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by peter12

I'm calling mental illness on this one.

Am I crazy for thinking you're mocking the "he's white so mental illness; if he was brown, terrorism?" thing here? Or should I assume you're serious?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by nik-

Chaotic, fluid situation is chaotic and fluid.

I think that news organizations could learn from the sports world. Bob Mackenzie has become the official source of when something is a done deal because he doesn't jump the gun.

A news organization needs to establish themselves as this conveyor of truth. It means being thoroughly disciplined not to jump the gun. I believe that there should be a financial payoff for being the credible source of journalism.

In Canada this should be the default position of the CBC. They should never break any breaking news type story.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Trump is wrong about 99.9% of things but he's absolutely right about media. They're scum who will do anything for views and attentions..

That's a huge overstatement.
Most people who are in the media are interested in providing the public with accurate and balanced information.
I agree that there are some pressures that have unfortunately undermined some of this, at times, but to pain all the media "as scum who will do anything for views and attentions" is hyperbole and frankly offensive.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Am I crazy for thinking you're mocking the "he's white so mental illness; if he was brown, terrorism?" thing here? Or should I assume you're serious?

I was mocking the generic assumptions that the media is making without any supporting evidence.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by peter12

That is a strange assumption.

Not really. But thanks for avoiding answering.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Not really. But thanks for avoiding answering.

See above. I was unfairly vague in my answer.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I gotcha. We straight.

[killer_carlson]

Where does one walk out and acquire an AK-47 in Canada?

(if it was that gun as reported)