Tkachuk for Calder musing on NHL.com

[doublebass]

Great Article

http://www.flamesfrom80feet.ca/2017/01/calder-darkhorse-time-to-wake-up-and.html

[Karl]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Correct me if I am wrong, W Nylander is a rookie and playing well?

Yes. He's doing pretty well in general to this point.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No where near the all around game that Tkachuk has.

Nylander is very one-dimensional at this point and would have to have a pretty good lead in points on Tkachuk to be ranked ahead of him.

Patrick Laine is one-dimensional. Nylander is not.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by kbvall

Actually I was expecting... more? Almost all the people we talked to said that Blue Jays was the most popular team in Toronto. I didn't expect that baseball competed with hockey in Canada.


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The Blue Jays have had a massive resurgence not just in Toronto, but all over Canada. They were 1st in attendance in the AL.
Toronto is the most diverse city in the entire world. There are other spots that are huge as well due to the different cultures living there.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

For the people crying about Matthews winning because he plays for Toronto, the last time a Leafs player won the Calder was Brit Selby. The following year Bobby Orr won it....

Might be more of the fact that Matthews is on pace for 45 goals that he's considered the favourite.

This.

The Leafs never win any awards. So saying they get favoured is silly. There's no fact behind it.

Matthews is on pace for one of the most impressive rookie seasons in a long time.

[getbak]

The last time a Leaf player went first overall, everyone thought he was a lock to win the Calder too. Then, an American kid playing for the Flames won it instead.


I hope history repeats itself.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Patrick Laine is one-dimensional. Nylander is not.

No he isn't. Yes he is.

LOL.

[djsFlames]

Dem Maple Leafs goggles..

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

The Blue Jays have had a massive resurgence not just in Toronto, but all over Canada. They were 1st in attendance in the AL.
Toronto is the most diverse city in the entire world. There are other spots that are huge as well due to the different cultures living there.

You forgot to mention that Toronto cures cancer, too!

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by the2bears

You forgot to mention that Toronto cures cancer, too!

It's a fantastic city. Don't be mad. There's not a more clean, safe big city in North America.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

No he isn't. Yes he is.

LOL.

Patrick Laine isn't one-dimensional? Really? All the numbers say yes he is.
Nylander has better advanced stats BTW. Nylander was the best possession player on the ice tonight. Laine never does that.
I don't think many of you are aware of pitiful Laine's advanced stats are. There are over a dozen rookies killing him right now in overall stats(The Leafs alone have 4 rookie forwards with better advanced stats than Laine),..

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Dem Maple Leafs goggles..

When Laine doesn't score a goal he's useless.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

Patrick Laine isn't one-dimensional? Really? All the numbers say yes he is.
Nylander has better advanced stats BTW. Nylander was the best possession player on the ice tonight. Laine never does that.
I don't think many of you are aware of pitiful Laine's advanced stats are. There are over a dozen rookies killing him right now in overall stats(The Leafs alone have 4 rookie forwards with better advanced stats than Laine),..

Haha. I wasn't disagreeing with you... just providing a Coles notes of how you like to make your case.

Seeing as how words aren't your friends, perhaps a video might help:

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

Haha. I wasn't disagreeing with you... just providing a Coles notes of how you like to make your case.

Seeing as how words aren't your friends, perhaps a video might help:

That's not true. I have provided this board with all advanced stats to show how poorly defensively and one-dimensional Laine is.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

This.

The Leafs never win any awards. So saying they get favoured is silly. There's no fact behind it.

Matthews is on pace for one of the most impressive rookie seasons in a long time.

Yeah. Since 2015/16. Quite the stretch of time.

We will see if he gets to Panarins point totals. I think not.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Yeah. Since 2015/16. Quite the stretch of time.

We will see if he gets to Panarins point totals. I think not.

What award was that? The last significant one was 1993.

Matthews is a franchise changer. I do not care about a 25 year old rookie wingers stats who is not as good last season.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

This.

The Leafs never win any awards. So saying they get favoured is silly. There's no fact behind it.

Matthews is on pace for one of the most impressive rookie seasons in a long time.

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Yeah. Since 2015/16. Quite the stretch of time.

We will see if he gets to Panarins point totals. I think not.

Originally Posted by BigTuna

What award was that?

That's what he was replying to.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BigTuna

What award was that? The last significant one was 1993.

Matthews is a franchise changer. I do not care about a 25 year old rookie wingers stats who is not as good last season.

Ya, not as good.

15-16
80GP, 30-47-77

16-17 (on pace for)
82GP, 31-46-77

Huge drop off there.

Matthews is a franchise changer because Toronto is a garbage franchise. That's not saying he isn't good, but perspective is required.

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Ya, not as good.

15-16
80GP, 30-47-77

16-17 (on pace for)
82GP, 31-46-77

Huge drop off there.

Matthews is a franchise changer because Toronto is a garbage franchise. That's not saying he isn't good, but perspective is required.

Auston Matthews is already at 19 a top 10 NHL player. In fact, Pierre mcguire, who knocks the Leafs all the time said on the radio he was top 3.

Matthews is a franchise changer on every rebuilding franchise, not just Toronto. He's a much more important player than Patrick Laine. Feels like you're underrating him. Panarin arrived in the NHL in his mid 20's and got top line minutes with superstars to pad his production. Just not the same type of player.

Matthews is doing this with some mediocre talent on his line, and still isn't getting that much ice-time considering. His advanced stats are top-notch. He is a true 200 ft star in his rookie year.

[Senator Clay Davis]

BigTuna is pretty much the king of trolling around here. Why people choose to engage I'm not really sure. I guess we all get bored sometimes and gotta get some laughs out.