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Old 12-18-2016, 07:42 PM   #81
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Of those Boston prospects, any taken with picks they got for Hamilton?
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:44 PM   #82
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Of those Boston prospects, any taken with picks they got for Hamilton?
Yes, Jeremy Lauzon (52nd overall) is playing for Canada. Zach Senyshyn (15th overall) was in camp, but lost out to Dube and others.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:01 PM   #83
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as it stands, only 4 teams (PHI, TB, OTT, CHI) will have more prospects at the WJC. If all Flames make the cut, of course. Somebody at HF posted a team breakdown:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=2164019

pretty crazy that Philly has 8 players there despite the fact that Provorov and Konecny are unavailable because they're already in the NHL. Tampa has 5 Canadians, but "only" one player from other countries.

In contrast EDM has 2...
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:09 AM   #84
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USA assistant coach describes the 3 goalies at camp:
https://www.nhl.com/news/us-deciding...?tid=281266438

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Mayotte, who is making his debut on the U.S. national junior team coaching staff, broke down for NHL.com the positive attributes of each goaltender.

On Parsons: "He's not afraid to make the split save and reach for a few more pucks; he's able to make that second save but at the same time his rebound control is phenomenal. He's almost like Velcro; the puck hits him and it doesn't come back out or he puts it to the corner. If he doesn't control it, he has the athletic ability to recover."

On Woll: "He's more technical than [Parsons] but also has that athletic quickness and skating. He's very clean and very efficient, he gets to his spot and fills the net. He makes the save and moves on to the next one. He's a very efficient goalie."

On Oettinger: "The biggest of all three goalies (6-foot-4, 202 pounds). He's very good at keeping everything in front of him. You're not going to see him reach for many pucks, and he works inside his box and is good at it. With that size, he can really skate and can anticipate plays so he's usually always in the right position."
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Old 12-19-2016, 09:14 AM   #85
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So camp action today:

The Americans will have an intrasquad scrimmage.

The Swedes will play an exhibition game against Slovakia today, but Kylington and Nylander not expected to join the camp until tomorrow.

The Canadians will play an exhibition game against Finland today, which will be on TSN2 @ 5pm MT.
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Old 12-19-2016, 10:00 AM   #86
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Looking forward to this. Wanna see some big hits from the Dube
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:05 PM   #87
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Fox showing he is the man to Quarterback the PP?

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"We had a couple guys in the wrong spots the first day at camp," Motzko said. "We had Luke Kunin (Minnesota Wild) in front of the net the first day and noticed when we put him on the half-wall, he was ripping them in. Clayton Keller (Arizona Coyotes) is more comfortable in a half wall-type situation, and defenseman Adam Fox (Calgary Flames) stood out working the point."
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:27 PM   #88
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^ IMO that was the role he was always going to get. The question is how much it will be expanded and how much he will be used 5 v 5.
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Harvard has the top PP in the NCAA right now (30.6%), and Fox is a major reason why.
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Honest question: Would Dan Boyle be a good comparable for Fox? Undersized skilled defenseman who can be a PP quarterback. I can't think of a lot of other players like that off the top of my head.
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Honest question: Would Dan Boyle be a good comparable for Fox? Undersized skilled defenseman who can be a PP quarterback. I can't think of a lot of other players like that off the top of my head.
Ryan Ellis
Torey Krug
Brian Rafalski
Paul Reinhart
Phil Housley


Just off the top of my head.

But as DustyGoon below me has said, his best comparable is Brian Rafalski or Torey Krug IMO

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Old 12-20-2016, 10:21 AM   #92
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Honest question: Would Dan Boyle be a good comparable for Fox? Undersized skilled defenseman who can be a PP quarterback. I can't think of a lot of other players like that off the top of my head.
Boyle had a bit of an edge to him in board battles. Not sure Fox has that or not. I think more Rafalski when i think of Fox. Although Fox has better numbers in USHL and college vs rafalski to this point (not sure how comparable Wisconsin back then to Harvard now is....Wisconsin probably had it tougher).
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Rafalski was a hell of a player. If the Flames have someone who turns out similar to him that would be a huge win for them.
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Sweden had better use Kylington on their PK instead of writing him off as an offensive PP specialist. He's been Stockton's best penalty killer IMO, and Stockton has the second best PK in the AHL right now.
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Russia's lines in their exhibition game today:

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Team Russia lines today
Korostelev-Trenin-Gurianov
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Sweden had better use Kylington on their PK instead of writing him off as an offensive PP specialist. He's been Stockton's best penalty killer IMO, and Stockton has the second best PK in the AHL right now.
Wow really? That's pretty great news. Maybe 2017/2018 is the year of Kylington.
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Ryan Ellis
Torey Krug
Brian Rafalski
Paul Reinhart
Phil Housley


Just off the top of my head.

But as DustyGoon below me has said, his best comparable is Brian Rafalski or Torey Krug IMO
Reinhart was 5'11" and 205. He was not a little guy.
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Old 12-20-2016, 01:26 PM   #98
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Ryan Ellis
Torey Krug
Brian Rafalski
Paul Reinhart
Phil Housley


Just off the top of my head.

But as DustyGoon below me has said, his best comparable is Brian Rafalski or Torey Krug IMO
I never thought of Reinhart as undersized, but the Flames would also use him at centre during playoffs, so maybe he wasn't playing like a big defenseman.
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I never thought of Reinhart as undersized, but the Flames would also use him at centre during playoffs, so maybe he wasn't playing like a big defenseman.

I was thinking more along play style in Reinhart's case. But I still find 5'11 and 205 below average for an NHL defencemen in that era.
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:55 PM   #100
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If Tkachuk was gone at 6, I wanted Alex Nylander. Looks like the Sabres have released him to the WJCs
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