PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

I think people have a legitimate reason to be concerned.

Trump has promised to nominate SC that will repeal Roe v. Wade. If you are pro-birth I guess that's fine but the vast majority of Americans don't feel that way.

Trump has proposed that NAFTA will be torn up. If you want to throw the Canadian economy into a tailspin, even temporarily, than that's fine. Otherwise, there's reason for concern.

Trump wants to cut taxes on the rich and sink the US economy (and the world economy as a result) into another recession. If that floats your boat that's cool. Otherwise, there is a real reason to be nervous.

These are just three of his campaign promises that the "sore losers" are concerned about. All we can hope for is that he is a yuge liar and doesn't follow through on most of his campaign promises.

I think one positive out Trump is that he is the most liberal republican ever elected. Go back and watch his convention speech when he gets republicans to awkwardly cheer for LGBT rights. He also, outside of the third debate ignored abortion completely from the campaign. So I think on social issues there is less of a threat then the generic republican.

Trade I think he will be brought into line on and won't be ripping up trade deals
Immigration he was moderating in the campaign to more or less what Obama does now.

The tax cuts will go through so that's not great.
And foreign policy is worrisome.
Climate change has been set back at least 4 years so geo engineering solutions to mitigate its impact need to be pursued now

But I think it will be better than we think.

[Senator Clay Davis]

To have been in the Hillary war room last night....my god the tension and anger must have been out of control. She still should have conceded at her rally, I know it was a devastating loss but you gotta respect the vote even if you don't like it.

[Looch City]

I wonder if this confirms Kanye 2020.

Anything is possible!

[CliffFletcher]

I honestly doubt Trump really wants this job. The day-to-day duties of the President are an ordeal of stuffy meetings and scripted protocol. Someone with Trump's temperament is going to hate it. I'm willing to bet he steps down in two years, citing health (he is the oldest man ever elected president).

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

What is actually scary about this election result is that the Republicans control both houses and the presidency. Everyone up here in Canada who screamed about how regressive and evil Harper was are going to learn over the next four years what regressive-right government really looks like.

That is the worst outcome of this election. The fringe elements who were driven by hate - the white nationalists and such - were given a voice and this election legitimized those movements. The alt-right is now mainstream. After just spending a couple weeks in "the south," that is a scary proposition.

[GGG]

One other thing is the naritive that angry whites elected trump may be false he did about as well as Romney. It was a lack of minority and youth support for Clinton that sunk her ship. She didn't inspire enough monoritres to vote for her in the face of typical republics white support.

[Thor]

I think Pence will play a significant role in his presidency, which is utterly terrifying... Honestly Trump will play by the republican rules mostly I think, since they control congress, the senate and now the WH.

I cannot imagine how devastating this will be to the supreme court makeup, all the bills and cuts which will pass, the US is going to look very different after his 4 years and not in a good way.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I honestly doubt Trump really wants this job. The day-to-day duties of the President are an ordeal of stuffy meetings and scripted protocol. Someone with Trump's temperament is going to hate it. I'm willing to bet he steps down in two years, citing health (he is the oldest man ever elected president).

Why would Trump step down? The GWB model is spend a lot of time on vacation and let everyone else handle the actual work. W part two is probably the best case scenario for Trump. I imagine he might be a one term President though.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Your in shock because experience didn't win out? You live in Alberta and / or Canada right?

Putting political ideology aside, I find it funny how shocked Canadians are the US as they favor someone who proved they don't have much experience to govern, shortly after putting a socialist into a capitalist province and a drama teacher in as PM. At a minimum Canada should at least understand that over time there are cycles and people get tired of established systems and leaders.

Best post I have seen in the last 24 hours.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GGG

One other thing is the naritive that angry whites elected trump may be false he did about as well as Romney. It was a lack of minority and youth support for Clinton that sunk her ship. She didn't inspire enough monoritres to vote for her in the face of typical republics white support.

Minorities dont automatically vote as a block. That was her failed strategy. Minorities who are 2nd or 3rd generation face the same problems whites do. They may not like illegal immigration or quotas etccc..

Hillary had no message.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

I wonder if this confirms Kanye 2020.

Anything is possible!

By 2020 Phil Kessell will have retired and he (and his dog) will need something to do. Why not?!?

[calgarygeologist]

Has the Clinton campaign made any announcement on when Hillary will be coming out of hiding to make a speech?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Has the Clinton campaign made any announcement on when Hillary will be coming out of hiding to make a speech?

At her sentencing most likely.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

What is actually scary about this election result is that the Republicans control both houses and the presidency. Everyone up here in Canada who screamed about how regressive and evil Harper was are going to learn over the next four years what regressive-right government really looks like.

Nah. Remember all the fear mongering about Harper's secret agenda? It amounted to little more than just that. There's only so much that any elected official can do in four years. It's been 1/4 into Jr's term already and he's accomplished very little to date good or bad. If Trump is to get two terms then I suppose things could change but if that's the case then I suppose it would be welcomed change by the voters.

[habernac]

It's Back to the Future part 2. Evil Biff is running the show. Yikes.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Your in shock because experience didn't win out? You live in Alberta and / or Canada right?

Putting political ideology aside, I find it funny how shocked Canadians are the US as they favor someone who proved they don't have much experience to govern, shortly after putting a socialist into a capitalist province and a drama teacher in as PM. At a minimum Canada should at least understand that over time there are cycles and people get tired of established systems and leaders.

Neither one of those 2 ran campaigns on bigotry, racism, xenophobia, misogyny and fear. slight difference.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Your in shock because experience didn't win out? You live in Alberta and / or Canada right?

Putting political ideology aside, I find it funny how shocked Canadians are the US as they favor someone who proved they don't have much experience to govern, shortly after putting a socialist into a capitalist province and a drama teacher in as PM. At a minimum Canada should at least understand that over time there are cycles and people get tired of established systems and leaders.

With that said, what type of candidate will win next time around in response to this then? An independent or actual socialist come to mind. If these predictions about Trump making a mess play out, then quite possibly. If he ends up being a typical Republican that just has a lot of funny/bad sound bites, then things likely return to normal next election with two vanilla candidates.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Neither one of those 2 ran campaigns on bigotry, racism, xenophobia, misogyny and fear. slight difference.

It doesn't matter what the campaigns were based on, the underlying sentiment is that in all three cases the voters were clearly tired of the status quo and were willing to vote the wrong person in just to stick it to the establishment.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Nah. Remember all the fear mongering about Harper's secret agenda? It amounted to little more than just that. There's only so much that any elected official can do in four years. It's been 1/4 into Jr's term already and he's accomplished very little to date good or bad. If Trump is to get two terms then I suppose things could change but if that's the case then I suppose it would be welcomed change by the voters.

Yeah that's because Canada is wildly different socially than the America and the Republicans. The CPC is basically the Democratic Party.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Nah. Remember all the fear mongering about Harper's secret agenda? It amounted to little more than just that. There's only so much that any elected official can do in four years. It's been 1/4 into Jr's term already and he's accomplished very little to date good or bad. If Trump is to get two terms then I suppose things could change but if that's the case then I suppose it would be welcomed change by the voters.

Yeah I'm sure everything will be fine in the end...it's just hard to believe that with the type of campaign he ran and the things he said.