[GDT] Flames @ Sharks, 8:30 PM. Sportsnet 360, Fan 960

[hockey.modern]

Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau will never get a point again.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

he IS the problem! Going offside is not cool. Offside is taught in Novice.

I find that when he goes offside it is because Mony or Johny are making 1 extra move at the blue line. Any player is going to go offside in this situation. Johny needs a big forward to play with so that he can dump the puck in when a play isn't there and be confident they will retain possession.

Early on he would dump it in and nobody would get it back. Now he tries to get it in on his own which results in extra moves and a turnover or offside.

[Alpine Fisher]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

I find that when he goes offside it is because Mony or Johny are making 1 extra move at the blue line. Any player is going to go offside in this situation. Johny needs a big forward to play with so that he can dump the puck in when a play isn't there and be confident they will retain possession.

Early on he would dump it in and nobody would get it back. Now he tries to get it in on his own which results in extra moves and a turnover or offside.

Yes thats right, Johnny or Monny make an extra move but that means you need to stop yourself from going offside. I'm not a professional by any means, but I've played Junior B and its not hard to 'hold up' your stride, or cut in to the blueline and straddle it and wait for your teammates.

It all comes down to having good hockey sense and learning how to play with Elite players, and Chiasson is just garbage when it comes to that.

[bigrangy]

Chiasson isn't the problem, but he's not the solution. As much as it's tempting to bring up Brouwer or Frolik to that line, they're doing fine with their linemates right now. You just need to wait for Monahan and Gaudreau to step up to their usual level of play. Either that or GG is Mike Johnston part 2 and the Flames will need to find a Mike Sullivan.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Chiasson isn't the problem, but he's not the solution. As much as it's tempting to bring up Brouwer or Frolik to that line, they're doing fine with their linemates right now. You just need to wait for Monahan and Gaudreau to step up to their usual level of play. Either that or GG is Mike Johnston part 2 and the Flames will need to find a Mike Sullivan.

I don't want to bring Frolik up to that line as much as bring Johnny to their line. Right now Monahan could benefit with some time with guys like Ferland and Stajan. Let them get some energy into his game and playing with some heart because right now he looks like he is just going through the motions. They are just not clicking right now, and as much as I agree with chemistry, sometimes you have to shake them up.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

he IS the problem! Going offside is not cool. Offside is taught in Novice.

I'd say Monahan and Gaudreau are the problem, not Chiasson.

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by belsarius

I don't want to bring Frolik up to that line as much as bring Johnny to their line. Right now Monahan could benefit with some time with guys like Ferland and Stajan. Let them get some energy into his game and playing with some heart because right now he looks like he is just going through the motions. They are just not clicking right now, and as much as I agree with chemistry, sometimes you have to shake them up.

So something like:

JG-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer
Tkachuk-Monahan-Chiasson
Ferland-Stajan-Bouma

that could work. Monahan really seems like a weak link right now, I wouldn't want him to drag down Tkachuk who's been playing well.

[FiveSeven]

Well with GG reuniting brodano you'd have to think he swaps Mony and Bennett if they don't at least have a positive impact tonight.

[Gaudreau]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

This is the turnaround that will set the tone for the season bros.

Gio-Brodie will inspire everyone to play better and more confident.

I almost think Gulutzan reads CP sometimes and when enough people bitch and moan, he makes the adjustment. That, or we're just all hockey experts Give yourselves a pat on the back.

Haha wisdom of crowds is definitely a real thing.

[ThatsRobbery]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

So something like:

JG-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer
Tkachuk-Monahan-Chiasson
Ferland-Stajan-Bouma

that could work. Monahan really seems like a weak link right now, I wouldn't want him to drag down Tkachuk who's been playing well.

My problem with this is that now Johnny is up against the other team's top line if he plays with Backs and Frolik. Not sure I want that situation for him when he is struggling, but the wya those two are playing could get him going. Also Backs tends to be one to carry the puck for that line so him and Johnny may clash there. However, given they are playing the best right now, might just be the boost he needs.

I personally like (in agreement with others on here):

Gaudreau-Bennett-Brouwer
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Monahan-Versteeg
Bouma/Hamilton-Stajan-Chaisson

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau

Haha wisdom of crowds is definitely a real thing.

Definitely only around here. The stuff I hear at games and read on Facebook is so painful.

[Anduril]

While moving Brouwer away from Bennett isn't quite the level of tearing Frolik and Backlund apart, Bennett and Brouwer has been relatively solid with both players playing well. I suppose at the potential of getting either of our first line guys going we might as well mix something up.

Also I hate myself for mentioning it but Frolik was often a guy in Winnipeg who was used to get others out of a slump IIRC.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

If GG thought Chiasson was the issue on the top line, he would be off the top line. He's the easiest scapegoat because he's not a core player, but how can you say Chiasson is the problem on that line with what we're seeing from Monahan and Gaudreau?

Gaudreau's zone entries have been abysmal this season. He's getting less room to skate with the puck now and still decides to hold onto the puck with no speed instead of just dump it in or pass.

[Badgers Nose]

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[HarryH93]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

Yes thats right, Johnny or Monny make an extra move but that means you need to stop yourself from going offside. I'm not a professional by any means, but I've played Junior B and its not hard to 'hold up' your stride, or cut in to the blueline and straddle it and wait for your teammates.



It all comes down to having good hockey sense and learning how to play with Elite players, and Chiasson is just garbage when it comes to that.

This is a great excuse for anyone that wants to blame anyone besides Johnny and Sean.

Chiasson isn't the problem, just like Versteeg wasn't the problem. Our two best players aren't playing at the level we expect of them. They are the problem, not Chiasson. Sure, it doesn't help that they don't have a real top winger, but they've managed without one for a long time and did well.

[Tailgator]

Expectations are low (and getting lower), 6-0 sharks. Gully will tell us to believe in a system of some kind.....

[FBI]

9-8 Sharks, Monahan and Gaudreau = -9
Bennett = +8

[Badgers Nose]

Flames a^2 + b^2 = c^2
Sharks 3

[MisterJoji]

Today's the day. Brodano plays Norris worthy, Johnny and Mony breakout offensively, solid backup goaltending. 4-0 Flames. Johnny x 2, Monahan, Brouwer.

[saillias]

Just for everyone who agrees that Monahan and Gaudreau have been the problem, what is your opinion on corsi?