This has to be the dumbest conversation to have ever evolved from a water thread. Like, full stop.
I'm just going to say this again, once, and then leave it at that.
It's convenient to have a cold bottle of water in the fridge waiting for me. I don't want to haul a tank full of water in and out of the truck, I don't want to have to bottle that water out of the tank before I put it in the fridge, I just want to grab a bottle of water out of the fridge and then drink it.
I honestly hope that's okay with you. I really do. But don't take it the wrong way if I don't keep the conversation going.
I think the problem is having this conversation with people who obviously don't camp or can't seem to recognize the convenience angle whatsoever. I'm 100% with you though.
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I think the problem is having this conversation with people who obviously don't camp or can't seem to recognize the convenience angle whatsoever. I'm 100% with you though.
It does with a trailer, which is exactly what V was talking about. Then we get the response from MattyC along the lines of "no one said you have to haul a trailer" and its just apparent that there are two totally different worlds at play here.
Its so much easier to just put a flat or two of water in the trailer and call it a day. Throw the bottles in a bag, recycle them, and its done. Tent camping or backpacking is maybe a different story (although if its car camping I think a flat is still easier and more convenient than a 5 gallon jug)
It does with a trailer, which is exactly what V was talking about. Then we get the response from MattyC along the lines of "no one said you have to haul a trailer" and its just apparent that there are two totally different worlds at play here.
Its so much easier to just put a flat or two of water in the trailer and call it a day. Throw the bottles in a bag, recycle them, and its done. Tent camping or backpacking is maybe a different story (although if its car camping I think a flat is still easier and more convenient than a 5 gallon jug)
Car camping the jug is way more convenient because you use it for cooking and drinking and cleaning up. And it can be refilled at any water source. And managing more garbage is a pain. Backpacking you bring a filter and use natural water sources.
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Car camping the jug is way more convenient because you use it for cooking and drinking and cleaning up. And it can be refilled at any water source. And managing more garbage is a pain. Backpacking you bring a filter and use natural water sources.
I think the problem is having this conversation with people who obviously don't camp or can't seem to recognize the convenience angle whatsoever. I'm 100% with you though.
Hmm...makes me wonder how we survived camping before water bottles were so readily available. I honestly don't remember wishing water was more conveniently available.
Why is anybody filling a tank and putting it in the fridge, or filling a bottle from a tank and putting it in the fridge?
I think that dealing with 24 empty water bottles is a bigger nuisance than dealing with one 5 gallon water container and everybody's individual water bottle.
Pfft, hardly a nuisance if you just throw them into the bushes when they're empty. Problem solved
To me this argument is not about whether it's just as convenient to use bottled water versus jugs etc. Buying a flat of bottles is generally easier. The argument should really be if you are willing to put up with a little bit of inconvenience and hassle in order to do your bit in trying to reduce the amount of waste we produce.
I think the problem is having this conversation with people who obviously don't camp or can't seem to recognize the convenience angle whatsoever. I'm 100% with you though.
For sure. Stuff like camping, or working out in the field, bottled water is the way to go. But people that stock it in their fridges at home, or drink it at their office jobs, I just don't fully get that
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If we want to talk about wasting water, then really, lawns waste a ton of water. The grass we have here isn't native to North America, and it's too dry of a climate to keep it healthy without additional water. So really, we waste a ton of drinking water for a purely aesthetic reason.
It does with a trailer, which is exactly what V was talking about. Then we get the response from MattyC along the lines of "no one said you have to haul a trailer" and its just apparent that there are two totally different worlds at play here.
So it wasn't just me. I felt like I was speaking a foreign language.
When you think about all the wastage of resources that goes into making things more convenient for ourselves, you'll begin to wonder how our planet managed to survive this long with humans living on it.
Our eventual demise would come at humanity's selfish pursuit of convenience
being in the Landscape industry, and more specifically irrigation, I have been to many conferences on Water conservation. Anyhow there was a documentary done back in 2008 that sheds a lot of light on the bottle water debate
Also to weigh in on the irrigation for lawns debate, the concept of irrigating lawns isn't bad. The unfortunate part is using treated water to do it and having a poorly designed, inefficient system. Most wasted irrigation water comes in the form of run-off and evaporation from watering at inappropriate times.
Grass naturally has a cooling effect as opposed to synthetic turf
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