Unarmed Black Man Lying In The Street With Hands Up Gets Shot By Police

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

From NBC Twitter. I as always recommend reading the comments.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/s...17068643504128

That seems to be the angle they're going with... but even then it makes zero sense. Surely you've got to have some evidence that he's armed before you start shooting.

[Senator Clay Davis]

And as I said, why handcuff him afterwards? This may or may not be racism, but as Corsi said it's "obscene negligence" at the very least. What in the holy #### was the cop thinking?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Acey

That seems to be the angle they're going with... but even then it makes zero sense. Surely you've got to have some evidence that he's armed before you start shooting.

Also if the officer was convinced that the autistic man was armed, and that the caregiver was in danger, why did he then handcuff the caretaker after shooting him?

[metallicat]

It's funny how dissentowner has not once confronted the accusations that he's not a police officer. I have nothing against conservation officers, I'm sure it's a great job and one to be proud of...so just admit it. Don't pretend to be a police officer patrolling the streets of Anytown Ontario when your actual job is being a conservation officer.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

As someone who lives in Florida, on behalf of all of Florida I have to honestly say:

Sorry everyone...sorry for Florida.

Some of us are trying, but it's an uphill battle.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

http://www.returnofkings.com/90760/4...tic-terrorists

You know, with only a slight re-wording of point two and no changes at all to points three and four, those same arguments could be made to accuse cops of being domestic terrorists.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

As someone who lives in Florida, on behalf of all of Florida I have to honestly say:

Sorry everyone...sorry for Florida.

Some of us are trying, but it's an uphill battle.

Just don't vote for Trump and we're good. If you do and he wins, well....

[foshizzle11]

If they were aiming for the autistic guy and missed, then state they were trying to protect him, why was he cuffed after he was shot?

So nuts, this cop can't possibly keep his job.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Just don't vote for Trump and we're good. If you do and he wins, well....

Can't vote yet. I'm not a citizen.

I have to wait until November to even apply for citizenship after having my green card (legal residency) for 3 years through marriage. It would be 5 years if I wasn't married to an American. This was after proving that I had 4 years of funds available to me throughout the course of my education BEFORE they would grant me a student visa.

Trump's right that immigration is broken in America, but he's wrong about what that means. To me, it means that it's nearly impossible to immigrate to this country if you're following the rules, so I fully understand why someone who doesn't have the same opportunities that I've had (professionally educated, married to an American, white, english speaker, no objectionable history) would find a way to enter the country illegally. I've been living here for 6 years, and I haven't had a single vote yet. The tea party and revolution occurred due to taxation without representation, but it still goes on here constantly. Just ask the millions of undocumented immigrants, and those of us who are legal, but still don't have a say in how the country is run.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just extremely pissed that I don't get a voice in this election coming up. You touched a nerve.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Also if the officer was convinced that the autistic man was armed, and that the caregiver was in danger, why did he then handcuff the caretaker after shooting him?

He missed with the handcuffs?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Can't vote yet. I'm not a citizen.

I have to wait until November to even apply for citizenship after having my green card (legal residency) for 3 years through marriage. It would be 5 years if I wasn't married to an American. This was after proving that I had 4 years of funds available to me throughout the course of my education BEFORE they would grant me a student visa.

Trump's right that immigration is broken in America, but he's wrong about what that means. To me, it means that it's nearly impossible to immigrate to this country if you're following the rules, so I fully understand why someone who doesn't have the same opportunities that I've had (professionally educated, married to an American, white, english speaker, no objectionable history) would find a way to enter the country illegally. I've been living here for 6 years, and I haven't had a single vote yet. The tea party and revolution occurred due to taxation without representation, but it still goes on here constantly. Just ask the millions of undocumented immigrants, and those of us who are legal, but still don't have a say in how the country is run.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just extremely pissed that I don't get a voice in this election coming up. You touched a nerve.

This is a really major point that needs to be dealt with in this country. We rant and rave about "illegals" and then we make it damn near impossible to legally immigrate here. Do we really think people want to live under the constant threat of deportation? No, we just make it too damn hard to do it legally.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

It's funny how dissentowner has not once confronted the accusations that he's not a police officer. I have nothing against conservation officers, I'm sure it's a great job and one to be proud of...so just admit it. Don't pretend to be a police officer patrolling the streets of Anytown Ontario when your actual job is being a conservation officer.

I worked as a conservation officer before joining a police service. I have a bunch of posters on here who love to accuse me of different other jobs including a mall cop. There, I have clarified. It doesn't matter. I love how everyone ignored the post I made about the OP on the subject, accusing me of siding with the officer when I clearly posted otherwise. Why am I bothering with this? I find it damn funny that a bunch of posters on here claim to be lawyers or have careers making ridiculous amounts of money but apparently out of all the careers I could claim to be doing yet am supposedly lying about I chose a PC. I should have went with oil tycoon or rockstar.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

It's funny how dissentowner has not once confronted the accusations that he's not a police officer. I have nothing against conservation officers, I'm sure it's a great job and one to be proud of...so just admit it. Don't pretend to be a police officer patrolling the streets of Anytown Ontario when your actual job is being a conservation officer.

He has posted on several occassions of being a police officer and that includes his latest post. Funny how some here have bad memories.

[chubeyr1]

What, there was not one cop there with a pair of binoculars or a scope that could see the toy truck?

I use to shoot at gophers a football field away with a decent scope on a 22 magnum. I knew what I was shooting at at a much further distance. Guys lying on the ground arms in the air and gets shot? After verbally explaining the situation!

I am not talking skin color here.

Cop who fired should be criminally charged. Not attempted murder or stupid stuff like that! Assualt causing harm or something to the effect. Being an idiot is not an excuse. Cops who handcuffed the guy as he was bleeding should be suspended without pay. Cop who shot should be going to prison. Should be a good reward financially for the victims!

I dont live in the States, I know alot has happened there recently. Nothing condones this though. Nothing!

Guy is lying on the ground, explaining the situation, and gets shot! How does this happen?

This is a Darwin type thing going on here!

Common sense! No longer is that common!

[Coach]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

What, there was not one cop there with a pair of binoculars or a scope that could see the toy truck?

I use to shoot at gophers a football field away with a decent scope on a 22 magnum. I knew what I was shooting at at a much further distance. Guys lying on the ground arms in the air and gets shot? After verbally explaining the situation!

I am not talking skin color here.

Cop who fired should be criminally charged. Not attempted murder or stupid stuff like that! Assualt causing harm or something to the effect. Being an idiot is not an excuse. Cops who handcuffed the guy as he was bleeding should be suspended without pay. Cop who shot should be going to prison. Should be a good reward financially for the victims!

I dont live in the States, I know alot has happened there recently. Nothing condones this though. Nothing!

Guy is lying on the ground, explaining the situation, and gets shot! How does this happen?

This is a Darwin type thing going on here!

Common sense! No longer is that common!

Except Darwinism is survival of the fittest. When you give idiots weapons, it's reverse Darwinism. Idiot shooting a smart person with a machine that a smart person made. This is artificial selection by moron.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Except Darwinism is survival of the fittest.

Well the poorly interpreted, bastardized version of it is anyways.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Except Darwinism is survival of the fittest. When you give idiots weapons, it's reverse Darwinism. Idiot shooting a smart person with a machine that a smart person made. This is artificial selection by moron.

Sorry for me error!

Thank you for the correction.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well the poorly interpreted, bastardized version of it is anyways.

True, but I don't think his theories included giving the... genetically disadvantaged... the means to eradicate the portion of the species fighting for progress.

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

Sorry for me error!

Thank you for the correction.

Haha just a joke

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Police culture is too militarized down there. Look at the Boston Marathon bombing pictures of police basically having military level gear and vehicles. One of the best scenes ever in the Wire is when a Major talks about the drug war, and how you have to have "an enemy" for a war, and how quickly everyone becomes a bad guy. Cops now think too much that every situation will immediately go the extreme, that "the enemy" is out to get them, guns are out ready to fire way too quickly in too many situations. Gotta be some major changes to police training and hiring. Too many people who just want the guy and the almost impunity that comes with it.

I disgaree. Unfortunately firearm related violence toward police is only increasing. The military based training like counter assault and tactics to engage dangerous targets from preferable vantage points save lives. Enhanced body armour and ballistic helmets save lives. BUT I will agree that there needs to be more training on when to utilize tactical methods. Not every situation calls for it and if you can't figure that out then you shouldn't be a cop.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Wow...I can't believe this is real...that cop needs to be charged and fired asap. There is literally zero way that can be justified.

A way will be found.