Your Flames off-season nightmare scenario

[Insufficient Funds]

Nightmare scenario? Probably something like this.

Draft: Flames use the 6 OA pick and select Brown. After being so elated from being picked by the Flames he heads out for a night on the town in Buffalo. He's under age and gets caught by the 5-0 with illicit drugs and open alcohol in the vehicle he's driving. He gets a Breathalyzer and blows a 0.1 blood/alcohol. Charges are laid.

Brown shows up to development camp and has to answer for his mistakes and takes it like a man. He says all the right things and the Flames brass is behind him 100%. They enrole him in a substance abuse program over the summer, or so we're led to believe.

Free agency: After the Brown fiasco the Flames look for a stable goalie. They're aren't any. So they sign Riemer to a 5 year 4.8m/aav. Bleh.

The only trade that's made is Poirier and Dallas' 2nd to Dallas for Nichushkin. Looks to be a great deal for the home team!

The world cup is cancelled because of serious terrorist threats and all the Flames players are at training camp with their new coach. Brown shows up 35 lbs overweight with a serious drug habit. He did not go into the substance abuse program as thought. The Flames are pissed and after his first practice he gets into a fight with Nichushkin and they both break their right hands. Trieliving is so mad he states that Brown will be sent home that night.

While the team is hitting the showers at the Dome, there's a terrorist bombing of the dome and the whole team dies under the rubble of the once iconic arena. The team is no more. We all cry for months.

The end.

Now THAT is a nightmare.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

That was.... interesting

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

It's not even that it's counter to every reply, it's the attitude in the replies themselves.

Text isn't always like this, I hope things are ok with him. I just don't understand the vehement defense of everything Treliving. He's done some good work so far, but some of the problems with this current Flames iteration are on him solely.

I've found Text's replies of that nature (like this one) are generally directed at someone saying something asinine and it may seem like more posts like that are being made because more people are saying stupid things.

[Vulcan]

My off season nightmare was when we picked up Phil Housley for the second time. As it turned out Brian Sutter knew how to properly use him and he had a good season outscoring Iginla with a + 14 too boot. Ever since than I'm a little more trustful of the people who are paid to know about these things, well except for Feaster.

[The Professor]

I guess my 'nightmare' scenario is: some of the summer moves don't turn out in the long run. Because whatever T does, I'm willing to hope it works out and cheer for said players.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

That was.... interesting

Indeed.

Nothing like an absurd scenario to help put things into perspective. Things could be so, so much worse than seeing the Flames draft a top-ranked defenseman.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Insufficient Funds

Nightmare scenario? Probably something like this.

Draft: Flames use the 6 OA pick and select Brown. After being so elated from being picked by the Flames he heads out for a night on the town in Buffalo. He's under age and gets caught by the 5-0 with illicit drugs and open alcohol in the vehicle he's driving. He gets a Breathalyzer and blows a 0.1 blood/alcohol. Charges are laid.

Brown shows up to development camp and has to answer for his mistakes and takes it like a man. He says all the right things and the Flames brass is behind him 100%. They enrole him in a substance abuse program over the summer, or so we're led to believe.

Free agency: After the Brown fiasco the Flames look for a stable goalie. They're aren't any. So they sign Riemer to a 5 year 4.8m/aav. Bleh.

The only trade that's made is Poirier and Dallas' 2nd to Dallas for Nichushkin. Looks to be a great deal for the home team!

The world cup is cancelled because of serious terrorist threats and all the Flames players are at training camp with their new coach. Brown shows up 35 lbs overweight with a serious drug habit. He did not go into the substance abuse program as thought. The Flames are pissed and after his first practice he gets into a fight with Nichushkin and they both break their right hands. Trieliving is so mad he states that Brown will be sent home that night.

While the team is hitting the showers at the Dome, there's a terrorist bombing of the dome and the whole team dies under the rubble of the once iconic arena. The team is no more. We all cry for months.

The end.

Now THAT is a nightmare.

I breathlessly await the mini-series.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Reading comprehension is a bitch for some people. Read the OP again. Lots of qualifiers in that post. I've actually said I would be okay with picking Nylander, but have reservations in doing so. I've said Fleury would be fine, at the right acquisition cost. The nightmare is if those reservations come to fruition. It would be a nightmare to draft any player at #6 and find their weaknesses were under-sold and their strengths over-sold. Imagine of we took a defenseman and at camp found out he was in no way close to level of players we already had, especially in relation to Andersson or Kyllington. Not a good situation. It would also be a nightmare to overpay for any player that handcuffs your ability to improve in other areas and screws your salary structure and cap. Three second round picks for MA Fleury? Over-payment. His salary pretty much does us in for free agency, where we need a second tier RW to fill in while our possible current pick develops. There is more depth to this than people seem think.

[Poe969]

Nightmare season...daily polls about ridiculous topics.

[Insufficient Funds]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Indeed.

Nothing like an absurd scenario to help put things into perspective. Things could be so, so much worse than seeing the Flames draft a top-ranked defenseman.

Nothing like to much booze in the afternoon to come up with a terrible story haha.

But I agree that Juolevi or Sergachev would not be bad for this organization. If Tre can't pull off a trade for 3 or 4 then this will still end up being a great asset for the Flames. It could be worse, the flames could have Klefbom as a "number 1 defenseman". Haha

[DeluxeMoustache]

Nightmare scenario:

Flames draft whomever.
Brodie gets hurt and misses several games out of the gate.
Treliving bungles the goalie situation and saddles Gully with Ramo, Ortio and another goalie all on one way contracts.
Hamilton demonstrates that last year wasn't an adjustment problem but what the CP faithful will come to refer as an Iggy-esque slow start.
Coach gives Ferland top 6 minutes.
After being hit in to the boards hard, a groggy Wideman looks up too late and smokes a linesman from behind.

Groundhog Day.

[Husky]

Flames severely overpay to move up into the draft. And whomever they select busts.

[FlameZilla]

Flames nightmare:

Monahan signs an offer sheet at some ridiculous salary ($7m+). The Flames match. Johnny's agent gets wind and refuses to allow Johnny to sign for any less than Mony's new salary. As a result Johnny sits out until Christmas. By the time they come to terms the Flames have already signed Reimer ($6m) and Okposo ($5.75m) but haven't been able to ditch any salary (Wideman, Stajan, Engelland) and cannot sign Johnny within the budgetary restrictions of the cap.

How's that for a horrific Oileresque nightmare scenario?

[polak]

If they take a defenseman in the First I'll be really really disappointed.

[jmac98]

Originally Posted by New Era

Reading comprehension is a bitch for some people. Read the OP again. Lots of qualifiers in that post. I've actually said I would be okay with picking Nylander, but have reservations in doing so. I've said Fleury would be fine, at the right acquisition cost. The nightmare is if those reservations come to fruition. It would be a nightmare to draft any player at #6 and find their weaknesses were under-sold and their strengths over-sold. Imagine of we took a defenseman and at camp found out he was in no way close to level of players we already had, especially in relation to Andersson or Kyllington. Not a good situation. It would also be a nightmare to overpay for any player that handcuffs your ability to improve in other areas and screws your salary structure and cap. Three second round picks for MA Fleury? Over-payment. His salary pretty much does us in for free agency, where we need a second tier RW to fill in while our possible current pick develops. There is more depth to this than people seem think.

I re-read the OP based on your suggestion we have difficulty comprehending. I still can't find where you're saying you're actually ok with Nylander. All I see in there is your mention of writing him off at the prospect camp.

In the above post you mention it would be a nightmare for 'any' pick at 6 not to turn out, and with that I'm sure we all agree. But that's not what you said in the OP so it's not fair to chastise people because you attempted to redirect your point 5 pages later. Perhaps what you meant to convey in the OP didn't come across in the format you meant, but that's not the fault of the reader.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by polak

If they take a defenseman in the First I'll be really really disappointed.

I continue to think that anyone who is more than just a little disappointed for more than a few moments by drafting a potential top-pairing defenseman is just being silly and hyperbolic. The Flames have excellent depth on defense, but the player picked at #6 could potentially be better than all of them.

[hummdeedoo]

Gulutzan agrees with Burke's assertion that this team really needs to play Brandon Bollog more

[dammage79]

Draft: One of Chychrun, Brown get picked. Blegh.
Goalie: Any case where the Flames severely over pay to acquire a solid goaltender. Like severely. I am prepared to see a heightened return to get a goalie, but something stupid would make me cry.
Trades: Any more "Truculent" trades like Bollig or say someone like Kassian. Just say no to truculence.
UFA: ANY UFA on a term more than 5 years, or on a cap hit that'll likely force the Flames to move one of Hamilton, Bennett or any of the core down the road.

[ben voyonsdonc]

My nightmare scenario is that Jonas Hiller decides to ditch his contract in Switzerland and come back to the Flames and gets signed long term. That won't happen so I'm ok.

I have complete faith that the scouting team and Treliving will do their jobs at the draft and I will be happy with the player that they choose.

[Sylvanfan]

At least Brown had sufficient funds to pay the cab driver after his night out in Buffalo.