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Old 01-26-2016, 02:09 PM   #81
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From time to time people say how we don't have anyone that can move up from Stockton.

Derek Grant (ready for a bottom 6 centre role. big, strong, great at faceoffs, offense coming along)
Drew Shore (can step into a bottom 6 right wing role, seems to wear down the opposition)
Kenny Agostino (right wing, needs to face NHL opposition to see if he can maintain)
Wotherspoon (strong defensive play, left side, weak offense. He's Trent Yawney!)
Nakladal (overall performer, right side, player most ready)

So from my point of view, we could trade a bottom 6 centre and two right wings, and one full defensive pair, for picks and prospects, and not really lose a beat.

Dare I say that I wouldn't miss Granlund (or Backlund), Jones, Jooris, Russell and Wideman, not because I don't like them as players, but because these are positions that we can fill, and these are players that I can see other teams wanting. (as opposed to who we would like to trade)
And then we have injuries who gets the call? I don't like the idea of dealing vets who bring nothing in return and going with a team full of guys in their early 20s. We would be like the Oilers and we would get killed on a nightly basis and ruin our players confidence all to give Drew Shore and Derek Grant a good crack at the NHL. Not worth it IMO. If they were good enough the Heat would be a good team and their stats would like a whole lot better playing in a much lessor league
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:10 PM   #82
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IMO, ALL Flames players other than perhaps Raymond has trade value. Value increases if you consider salary retaining.

Whether you would or would not trade said player is a different discussion.

The only reason I think Raymond has perhaps no trade value, is that there are too many LW and too many bad contracts LW in the league. Ever team seems to have some overpaid LW schmuck. If he were RW, he would probably still be long shot trade able IMO.

But currently, no even in my dreams can I see anything other than buyout or exposed in expansion draft for Raymond.
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