Tricky decisions for Treliving (LeBrun article)

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by browntrout

It would be a huge mistake not to sell the UFA's on this team. This team got man handled by the ducks last playoffs. Team desperately needs size and skill if they want to compete in the western conference Would love to see calgary draft the two big Finns in the first round. Brad would have to trade a roster player to make it happen. At this point you have to wonder if Brodie or Hamilton are on the trade market, considering the flames were in serious discussions with Columbus about Johansson.

Hamilton and Brodie along with Monahan, Bennett and Gaudreau are as untouchable as you can get on an NHL team.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by browntrout

It would be a huge mistake not to sell the UFA's on this team. This team got man handled by the ducks last playoffs. Team desperately needs size and skill if they want to compete in the western conference Would love to see calgary draft the two big Finns in the first round. Brad would have to trade a roster player to make it happen. At this point you have to wonder if Brodie or Hamilton are on the trade market, considering the flames were in serious discussions with Columbus about Johansson.

If Brodie or Hamilton were on the table for those discussions, Johansen would be a Flame.

[ricardodw]

I find it interesting that anyone would consider NOT trading Russell. His days were numbered as soon as the Flames trades their 1st round pick (Barzel) for Hamilton.

Gio-Brodie-Hamilton are signed long term. The team is in very serious trouble if the GM thinks the priority is signing a #4 UFA D-man.

If the Flames keep Russell it would be a similar move to trading for a playoff rental.

[Poe969]

People who think the Flames are going to trade Hamilton need to give their head a shake. I don't know of any examples where a team gave up assets for a really good young player, signed that player to an extension and then traded that player halfway into a season. The fact that they got Hamilton is great, they want him and see him as a long term piece so they just won't trade him. It would also look really terrible on the franchise to do that, I think it'd make a lot of players question coming to the Flames.

As for trading Brodie....wow. The guy is turning into an amazing #2 guy (some might say #1 guy) and he's on a great contract.

If anything, those 2 guys are as close to untouchable as this team has. I think they'd trade Gio before either of them.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by druetetective

If teams are oly wiling to trade middling picks and prospects (3rd or later,Hankowski/ Agostino type) I would just do nothing. Playoff experience for our young core is much more valuable than an outside shot of getting a NHL player 5 years from now imo.

Each of those picks has a low chance of turning into an NHL player. Which is why you want lots of them - more bullets in the chamber.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If Brodie or Hamilton were on the table for those discussions, Johansen would be a Flame.

Are you saying that the Flames were NOT in serious discussions with the Blue Jackets?

Who would the Flames have involved in discussions if not Hamilton that would have anywhere close to the value of Seth Jones? Monahan?

Had Seth Jones fallen another 2 spots in the 2013 draft who do you think the Flames would have picked?

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah it's an oddly disturbing photo. Almost like he's trolling us in his typical "I'm smarter than you" posture.

It's funny but also made me realize that I kind of hate him now. I can almost hear his arrogant quips when I look at your avatar and I feel like I want to block it haha

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you saying that the Flames were NOT in serious discussions with the Blue Jackets?

Who would the Flames have involved in discussions if not Hamilton that would have anywhere close to the value of Seth Jones? Monahan?

Had Seth Jones fallen another 2 spots in the 2013 draft who do you think the Flames would have picked?

No, I'm saying they didn't offer Hamilton. Because if they had, Johansen would now be a Flame.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I don't see where the Flames were seriously involved for Johansen, at least not by moving a d-man.

Rumors state that it almost looked like the Jackets were waiting for Jones to become available.

Which would mean it was very unlikely that a similar d-man was ever offered, or else the deal would have been made already.

[Poe969]

I"m willing to bet paper money that the Flames didn't offer Hamilton for Johansen. I'm also willing to bet that Hamilton will not only play the rest of this contract as a Flame but he'll likely be extended.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Are you saying that the Flames were NOT in serious discussions with the Blue Jackets?

Who would the Flames have involved in discussions if not Hamilton that would have anywhere close to the value of Seth Jones? Monahan?

Had Seth Jones fallen another 2 spots in the 2013 draft who do you think the Flames would have picked?

Obviously the Flames weren't willing to part with someone with the same value as Jones, which is why the trade was made for Jones and not whatever the Flames were offering.

It's possible that different teams made what they consider to be "serious" offers, and even offers that Columbus was considering, without them all being the same type of deal. I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames were offering a package deal that would have seen both Johansen and Rychel come to Calgary.

[Hammertime]

There's no such thing as untouchable. Everyone is touchable. It all depends how much you're gonna pay

[Vinny01]

Friedman mentioned after the Jones-Johansen swap happened the Flames were one of the teams in there. Less credible Garrioch also mentioned this is his rumor blog last Sunday. Even less credible (maybe as credible) Eklund had the Flames as a 'leader' in the Johansen sweeps a couple weeks before the trade went down. I have no doubt Calgary was in the mix but from the sounds of it Jarmo held out for Jones. That doesn't mean the Flames offered any of Dougie, Monahan, Bennett etc. they may have had a package deal on the table that the Jackets were not overly interested in.

I can't see any way Dougie would be shopped by the Flames as he was exactly what we needed this summer.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Hammertime

There's no such thing as untouchable. Everyone is touchable. It all depends how much you're gonna pay

words to live by