Evander Kane of Buffalo Sabres is under investigation for sex assault.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I'm sure some will question how genuine this all was but at least he was trying to do some good.

Bill Cosby did a lot for charity too.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

The nerve of that Kane guy donating significant money to needy kids.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Bill Cosby did a lot for charity too.

Just an observation. Not trying to say it makes him innocent. More so people love to hate the guy but at least he was making attempts to do something good.

Also haven't looked into the Bill Cosby case to give an opinion one way or the other.

[heep223]

Is it an American thing to create an environment that is so fertile for defamation based on accusation and speculation? Or do we have this here as well? Honest question.

I think the media should only be allowed to report on a case if someone has been actually charged with something.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by heep223

Is it an American thing to create an environment that is so fertile for defamation based on accusation and speculation? Or do we have this here as well? Honest question.

I think the media should only be allowed to report on a case if someone has been actually charged with something.

I've been wondering this too. What about other countries?

I mean, Kane hasnt been charged with anything and they havent exactly flattered the witness' credibility, so why is this being published?

Is it just some need to see celebrities brought down?

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Locke

I've been wondering this too. What about other countries?

I mean, Kane hasnt been charged with anything and they havent exactly flattered the witness' credibility, so why is this being published?

Is it just some need to see celebrities brought down?

I doubt it's a need to "bring celebrities brought down". It's a need to make money.

Here's a fun fact:
The most divisive stories get the most attention from people. Not the bad news, certainly not the good news, the divisive news, things that people disagree on.

Media outlets know this perfectly well. A vague story about a celebrity and rape? Perfect. People will fight over it and actively look for every piece of information to "prove" some point they think they have, and in the process bring lots of eyeballs to the adverts.

[Hackey]

Celebrity is a relatable story because everyone knows them. People are going to talk about it. If these were two regular people it would be minor local news and no one would care. I don't think the media neccesarily cares which way the case goes but more so do they have things they can sell.

[RougeUnderoos]

I know some people are saying "let's stop saying stupid stuff in here" and getting thanks for it, but I actually feel like I've learned something.

I already knew that "innocent until proven guilty" is a cornerstone of the justice system, but now I know that another cornerstone is, "the accuser is guilty of all sorts of things until the accused is proven guilty" in sexual assault cases.

The more you know...

[jayswin]

Both are silly.

[handgroen]

okay i rarely post in these kind of threads, reason being, i have nothing to contribute.

i check this and the previous threads like it, for updates. i suggest everyone else do the same. or here's an idea we can make an "Evander Kane alleged rape opinion thread"

don't think that thread would get many views? me neither.

have a great opinion on alleged rape? me neither. move along.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Pretty ####ty of you to laugh at that. Even if we don't account for 'date rape' drugs or alcohol, there's still a well documented link between traumatic experience and memory loss.

http://time.com/3625414/rape-trauma-brain-memory/

http://www.hopesurvivors.org.uk/pg4-rape_effects.html

I was more laughing at the dumb/non-descript wording. Hence the follow-up comment on how the media shouldn't say anything until there's actually something to say. Something like "She's can't remember anything because she's claiming she was drugged" would certainly not be something to laugh about. As it appears, it just sounds like someone waffling on their story because they didn't iron out the details before they came out with it. Either situation could be a possibility.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by handgroen

okay i rarely post in these kind of threads, reason being, i have nothing to contribute.

i check this and the previous threads like it, for updates. i suggest everyone else do the same. or here's an idea we can make an "Evander Kane alleged rape opinion thread"

don't think that thread would get many views? me neither.

have a great opinion on alleged rape? me neither. move along.

Now that you've outlined the rules of conduct this should be much easier.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Now that you've outlined the rules of conduct this should be much easier.

that mean you'll stop? i sure hope so.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

As it appears, it just sounds like someone waffling on their story because they didn't iron out the details before they came out with it.

Reading this quote:

Another law enforcement source said the woman was having “memory issues.”

And stating that it appears like "someone waffling on their story because they didn't iron out the details" is an extremely poor viewpoint.

If you've read the links in the post you responded to, or the numerous other ones you can find online with a simple Google search, you'll find tons of evidence that rape and other trauma victims often suffer memory issues as a result of the incident. Alcohol and drugs don't need to be involved.

I'm not suggesting anything about the case or making judgement on Kane. But coming to the conclusion that she's making it up because she's having memory issues is an extremely ####ty and dangerous attitude towards rape victims.

[sureLoss]

No charges. The girl didn't even accuse him of anything.

News Update

http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/police-courts/no-charges-against-evander-kane-after-sex-encounter-investigation-20160311

Buffalo Sabres star Evander Kane has been cleared of any wrongdoing after an investigation into a sexual encounter in December.

No accusation was ever made against Kane, but an investigation started when a young woman who spent the night with him sought medical treatment at a local hospital and said she could not remember what happened.

The Erie County District Attorney’s Office and the Buffalo Police sex offense squad determined that nothing illegal occurred, sources familiar with the probe told The Buffalo News on Friday.

“There was never a criminal complaint filed. After a careful and diligent examination of all the known facts, including the results of forensic and toxicological testing, neither the provable facts nor the applicable law support the filing of any criminal charges or a prosecution in this matter,“ Acting District Attorney Michael J. Flaherty Jr. said in a statement.

Paul Cambria, Kane’s attorney, said the hockey player is “relieved but not surprised.”

“After all the interviews that were conducted, after all the toxicology tests were completed, there was no evidence of a crime ... and there was no evidence to file any kind of charge,” Cambria said. “I spoke to my client. He was relieved, but not surprised in any way, because he did nothing wrong.”

Kane has stated that he had consensual sex with the woman after meeting her in a downtown bar Dec. 27 and taking her back to his hotel room, sources close to the case have said.

Hospital officials contacted police after finding evidence of trauma and examining the woman for signs of sexual assault. That resulted in police searches of Kane’s downtown hotel room and his sport utility vehicle.

“As I understand it, there are certain triggers that would cause hospital officials to” contact police about a possible sexual assault, Cambria said. “The reason this investigation started in the first place is that something triggered one of these automatic protocols. The young woman made no criminal complaint.”

[Resolute 14]

Whatshisname from the Buffalo News is probably not going to be given insider status with any players after this season.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

LOL... well, at least his name got plastered all over for no reason. It's not so bad, I'm sure only thousands of people will now associate him with rape. No big deal.

[GioforPM]

Insert bad "if you have sex and your partner can't remember it you're doing it wrong" joke here.

[calgaryblood]

Wow that kind of investigation should not have been made public.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Wow that kind of investigation should not have been made public.

So very much this. None of these investigations should ever go public until the entire court case is finished and the accused ends up with a guilty conviction.