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[Patek23]

Is chink the most offensive slander?


I remember when I was about 5 and my dad was playing in a baseball league, I didn't know that it was racist and I thought that the sound the ball made off of the bats made a "chink" noise, so when my dad went up to hit I started chanting "chink,chink,chink" I didn't find out till after my mom pulled me aside and explained to me, and then I felt even worse because the pitcher was chinese.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Aug 25 2005, 12:32 AM
Is chink the most offensive slander?


I remember when I was about 5 and my dad was playing in a baseball league, I didn't know that it was racist and I thought that the sound the ball made off of the bats made a "chink" noise, so when my dad went up to hit I started chanting "chink,chink,chink" I didn't find out till after my mom pulled me aside and explained to me, and then I felt even worse because the pitcher was chinese.

Personally, I don't get offended by that word. However, there are some who regard that word as the worse possible thing you can say to an asian. However, I think it really depends on the person. To me, that's not the worse slander. Calling me a rice farmer would be the worse...


I'm just kidding.

[Patek23]

Maybe not your area since it applies to japan, but why is it racist to call a japanese person a nib, I remember my japanese friend used to go on and on about it, but I never understood what it means?

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally posted by Flaming Homer@Aug 25 2005, 12:40 AM
Maybe not your area since it applies to japan, but why is it racist to call a japanese person a nib, I remember my japanese friend used to go on and on about it, but I never understood what it means?

My white friends used to think it would be funny to call me nib. I had to correct inform them that I'm not japanese, and that they're dumbasses lol. I believe Nib was like a short form of Nippon...which is Japan in japanese (I think, someone correct me). So...I don't know why it's offensive to japanese people (any japanese know this?). I would think being called "jap" would spark that sort of emotion far more than "nib."

[flamingchina]

I may not be chinese but I'll try and throw in some of my own half assed answers
Do Chinese hate Japan?
Well, I've lived in Taiwan, and China, and been to Hong Kong and Singapore, and honestly, It's mostly people from Mainland (the younger ones I mean) that have an issue with Japan. Why? It's state sponsered (taught in schools/the media) I had students telling me they should go to war with Japan right now (well, this was a year and a half ago.. before all those protests) The Japanese are a convenient scapegoat for the government in China.
In Taiwan, most people really just don't care about the Japanese, they don't hate them, they don't worship them either. (Japan occupied Taiwan for about 50 years)

Re: do they love the government?
Some do, some don't. Myself, and several people I knew while living there came up with the theory that people (more so educated ones) see the disconnect between what is often said by the media and government, and what is real, and react in two ways, they either fanatically believe the government, or become very cynical about it. There isn't a lot of in between from what I saw.
Part of the problem is that in smaller places, the party still holds a lot of sway over every day life, and informers are still very much a part of everyday life. (IE students had to be careful what they said to me on campus)
mm and re: driving:
China has 1.9% of the worlds cars but accounts for 15% of global fatalities
but, then again the drivers are fine in Taiwan.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeBruce+Aug 24 2005, 02:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheyCallMeBruce @ Aug 24 2005, 02:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-HelloHockeyFans@Aug 24 2005, 08:10 PM
Here's a question I know the answer to, but I'll ask Bruce anyways.

Why do we tap the table with our index and middle fingers when some one pours tea for us?

This is a sign of appreciation for someone pouring you the tea. My white friends were kinda confused at first and thought it was kinda rude to tap the table like that, but I had to explain to them this is the way things are done. You're basically saying "thank you." [/b][/quote]
It's actually like your fingers are bowing as the original gesture included bending the fingers so the knuckles touched the table like your knees would when you kneel.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally posted by red '00@Aug 24 2005, 05:18 PM
Can you really buy square watermelons over there?

That's Japan. Please stop confusing us. Japan is really not very popular in Asia for their refusal to admit and atone for wartime attrocities (and also plenty of non-wartime attrocities commited by Imperialist Japan in the 19th and 20th centuries).

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeBruce+Aug 24 2005, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheyCallMeBruce @ Aug 24 2005, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flaming Homer@Aug 25 2005, 12:40 AM
Maybe not your area since it applies to japan, but why is it racist to call a japanese person a nib, I remember my japanese friend used to go on and on about it, but I never understood what it means?

My white friends used to think it would be funny to call me nib. I had to correct inform them that I'm not japanese, and that they're dumbasses lol. I believe Nib was like a short form of Nippon...which is Japan in japanese (I think, someone correct me). So...I don't know why it's offensive to japanese people (any japanese know this?). I would think being called "jap" would spark that sort of emotion far more than "nib." [/b][/quote]
If you had been buying "Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos" comic books in the 1960's you'd know that its "nip" and not "nib," a shortening of Nippon obviously.

It was a derogatory slang term used by Americans to describe Japanese during WWII.

Cowperson

[Hack&Lube]

Originally posted by Reggie Dunlop@Aug 24 2005, 05:48 PM
How come there weren't any Chinese guys in the 80's pop group Wang Chung?

Same reason why there are no Chinese in

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by Hack&Lube+Aug 24 2005, 07:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hack&Lube @ Aug 24 2005, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Reggie Dunlop@Aug 24 2005, 05:48 PM
How come there weren't any Chinese guys in the 80's pop group Wang Chung?

Same reason why there are no Chinese in
[/b][/quote]
That is a great album, I used to love Wu-Tang growing up.

[fredr123]

What's with the foot shuffling? I find it kind of annoying and for some reason, most of the people who walk along without picking up their feet seem to be Asian...

And the horking on the sidewalk. Again, I've seen a lot of Asian people walk along the sidewalk (or worse: indoors!) and hork a loogey. What's the deal?

[Hack&Lube]

Originally posted by icarus+Aug 24 2005, 02:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (icarus @ Aug 24 2005, 02:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheyCallMeBruce@Aug 24 2005, 08:03 PM
Table 5, it's really not that hard.# You just have to remember.# Be respectful to her family members...buy them good expensive gifts if necessary.# It makes it even harder if you're a white guy, so be sure to always be respectful and lie about how much you enjoy the mother's cooking.# Once you're in with the family, they'll always remind their daughter how awesome you are.# This helps, because she will probably get annoyed and give in to you.

This is the most important piece of information I've read in this thread. But I want to know more (perhaps this would best be address to a Chinese girl, but you probably have some insights I don't have).

Are Asian girls generally interested in white guys? I've had experiences this year with a girl from Singapore and a 2nd-gen Korean girl (I think Korean is my new favourite nationality), but they were just one-time things. Which is usually fine by me, but just in case I am really interested in an Asian girl how do I know whether she is willing to date a gwai lo? [/b][/quote]
Frustratingly, for many of us Asians, yes this is true of many of my friends and my friend is dating a gwai lo right now.

You guys are taller apparentely...except Tom Cruise but they still love him.

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeBruce@Aug 25 2005, 05:03 AM
Table 5, it's really not that hard. You just have to remember. Be respectful to her family members...buy them good expensive gifts if necessary. It makes it even harder if you're a white guy, so be sure to always be respectful and lie about how much you enjoy the mother's cooking. Once you're in with the family, they'll always remind their daughter how awesome you are. This helps, because she will probably get annoyed and give in to you.

Calgary Flames, I have never known an oriental person to be naturally blonde. I have seen brown hair orientals...and I once met a girl who for some reason had some red to her hair (naturally), but no blondes. Sorry. Not unless she's mix (asian and white), but that doesn't count cause she isn't truly asian.

So my daughter, who speaks Japanese (and understands English), holds a Japanese (and Canadian) passport, goes to Japanese kindy, and is being raised in Tokyo is not really Asian because she is not "pure-bred". I have a Swedish/German background and was born and raised in Canada, my wife is from a city near the base of Mount Fuji.

And do you really like Ayumi Hamasaki's music? Also, would your child (Chinese-Japanese) be more pure than say a Caucasian-Japanese one.

Since you're letting people ask.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally posted by Cowperson+Aug 25 2005, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cowperson @ Aug 25 2005, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

My white friends used to think it would be funny to call me nib. I had to correct inform them that I'm not japanese, and that they're dumbasses lol. I believe Nib was like a short form of Nippon...which is Japan in japanese (I think, someone correct me). So...I don't know why it's offensive to japanese people (any japanese know this?). I would think being called "jap" would spark that sort of emotion far more than "nib."

If you had been buying "Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos" comic books in the 1960's you'd know that its "nip" and not "nib," a shortening of Nippon obviously.

It was a derogatory slang term used by Americans to describe Japanese during WWII.

Cowperson [/b][/quote]
Sorry cow, I'm not quite that old

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally posted by Hack&Lube+Aug 25 2005, 09:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hack&Lube @ Aug 25 2005, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-red '00@Aug 24 2005, 05:18 PM
Can you really buy square watermelons over there?

That's Japan. Please stop confusing us. Japan is really not very popular in Asia for their refusal to admit and atone for wartime attrocities (and also plenty of non-wartime attrocities commited by Imperialist Japan in the 19th and 20th centuries). [/b][/quote]
List of Japanese Apologies to Asian countries to attone for war crimes

Most of the Asian backlash against Japan has to do with the fact that the governments of Korea and China took reparation money from Japan after the war, and invested it on infrastructure. It never made it down to the people directly affected by the wars, and in the case of Korea, was managed irresponsibly.

War Reparation Payouts

It happened, it was horrible, but to what extent can you blame the current generation of Japanese for something that happened before their parents and grandparents were born? I think it's time for the region to move on.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally posted by fredr123@Aug 25 2005, 01:03 AM
What's with the foot shuffling? I find it kind of annoying and for some reason, most of the people who walk along without picking up their feet seem to be Asian...

And the horking on the sidewalk. Again, I've seen a lot of Asian people walk along the sidewalk (or worse: indoors!) and hork a loogey. What's the deal?

I don't think I've ever encountered both of these more so in asians than any other race. Maybe it just so happens the ones you see are asians?

[JohnnyFlame]

I was surprised to find out that Mainlanders do consider themselves "more Chinese" than those in Hong Kong, Taiwan and certainly more so than the other Chinese ethnic populations of SouthEast Asia not to mention 2nd and 3rd etc. Generation Chinese overseas.

I find that kind of weird that they consider them somehow not quite as Chinese as they are yet at the same time I have never met anyone here that wouldn't love to go to live in especially Hong Kong and would pull up stakes in a nanosecond.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Originally posted by TheCommodoreAfro+Aug 25 2005, 01:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheCommodoreAfro @ Aug 25 2005, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TheyCallMeBruce@Aug 25 2005, 05:03 AM
Table 5, it's really not that hard. You just have to remember. Be respectful to her family members...buy them good expensive gifts if necessary. It makes it even harder if you're a white guy, so be sure to always be respectful and lie about how much you enjoy the mother's cooking. Once you're in with the family, they'll always remind their daughter how awesome you are. This helps, because she will probably get annoyed and give in to you.

Calgary Flames, I have never known an oriental person to be naturally blonde. I have seen brown hair orientals...and I once met a girl who for some reason had some red to her hair (naturally), but no blondes. Sorry. Not unless she's mix (asian and white), but that doesn't count cause she isn't truly asian.

So my daughter, who speaks Japanese (and understands English), holds a Japanese (and Canadian) passport, goes to Japanese kindy, and is being raised in Tokyo is not really Asian because she is not "pure-bred". I have a Swedish/German background and was born and raised in Canada, my wife is from a city near the base of Mount Fuji.

And do you really like Ayumi Hamasaki's music? Also, would your child (Chinese-Japanese) be more pure than say a Caucasian-Japanese one.

Since you're letting people ask. [/b][/quote]
To Ayumi: Yes.

you mean pure asian? I suppose so. I have a friend who's half korean half chinese, and she looks like a normal asian to me. i guess it really depends on what you mean by "pure." I'm making a comparison superficially of course.

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeBruce+Aug 25 2005, 10:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheyCallMeBruce @ Aug 25 2005, 10:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

So my daughter, who speaks Japanese (and understands English), holds a Japanese (and Canadian) passport, goes to Japanese kindy, and is being raised in Tokyo is not really Asian because she is not "pure-bred". I have a Swedish/German background and was born and raised in Canada, my wife is from a city near the base of Mount Fuji.

And do you really like Ayumi Hamasaki's music? Also, would your child (Chinese-Japanese) be more pure than say a Caucasian-Japanese one.

Since you're letting people ask.

To Ayumi: Yes.

you mean pure asian? I suppose so. I have a friend who's half korean half chinese, and she looks like a normal asian to me. i guess it really depends on what you mean by "pure." I'm making a comparison superficially of course. [/b][/quote]
I think the use of the word "pure" is kinda dumb. Asia = everything from India east, does it not? It also implies a special benefit that I don't see.

[FireFly]

Originally posted by TheyCallMeBruce+Aug 24 2005, 07:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheyCallMeBruce @ Aug 24 2005, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fredr123@Aug 25 2005, 01:03 AM
What's with the foot shuffling? I find it kind of annoying and for some reason, most of the people who walk along without picking up their feet seem to be Asian...

And the horking on the sidewalk. Again, I've seen a lot of Asian people walk along the sidewalk (or worse: indoors!) and hork a loogey. What's the deal?

I don't think I've ever encountered both of these more so in asians than any other race. Maybe it just so happens the ones you see are asians? [/b][/quote]
It's not just him... I notice it too. If a country has to make a law against spitting just to have a shot at the Olympics, it's an issue. That said, I only notice this in older Asians, as younger people generally show the same amount of spitting regardless of heritage.

As for foot shuffling, if you've ever worked in a mall, or just sat in one for any length of time, young Asians (generally teenage girls) shuffle their feet a lot. Perhaps it's because white kids get cuffed for it? I know I did. Enough cuffs to the head with a stern 'pick up your feet!' and I learned not to do that.