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Old 09-23-2015, 02:05 PM   #81
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Because it looks like shat. If you can't keep your property looking neat and tidy, I already am annoyed with you. If you can't keep your property neat and tidy and you're breaking bylaws, I'm going to complain until you comply.

The reason I care is because it's inconsiderate to your neighbours to not maintain your property to the standard of the properties around you. If you can't maintain your house in a nice state of repair, go get a condo (where the exterior is taken care of for you) or move to an acreage (where I don't have to look at your mess).

Neat/clean/tidy people are so because they're more comfortable in neat/clean/tidy surroundings. If your mess/junk is breaking a bylaw, why should I have to deal with discomfort when it's you that is breaking the bylaw? If some slob's fence is falling over, paint is falling off his house, starts projects and doesn't finish them, doesn't clean his gutters, parks his jalopies on the front lawn, leaves his crappy tent trailer on the driveway, etc., his neighbours have every right to complain. They're not a-holes for complaining; the guy is an a-hole for breaking the bylaw.

And should you talk to the neighbour before complaining? Definitely never. It's not good for the community. You want plausible deniability: "Somebody called on you for that?! What a prick! Weird, never bothered me..." Then when their mess is dealt with, you can carry on having a nice, civil relationship with them. You're not the guy who complained on them (in their mind), which is better for everybody's peace of mind.

How do you know his tent trailer is crappy? What if it is a new, well maintained tent trailer that, when parked doesn't extend into the side walk.

Now, I will preface this by saying, if it is set up all summer then maybe you have a point. But storing a tent trailer in your drive way does not equal not looking after your property.
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:50 PM   #82
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How do you know his tent trailer is crappy? What if it is a new, well maintained tent trailer that, when parked doesn't extend into the side walk.

Now, I will preface this by saying, if it is set up all summer then maybe you have a point. But storing a tent trailer in your drive way does not equal not looking after your property.
I'd say it does equate to not running a tight ship. But yeah, if it was new and well maintained then it probably wouldn't bother me. But if my whole block had a tent trailer on their driveway I'd probably get a little concerned we were starting to look like an RV lot then I may have to make a call. Speed dial 1.
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K there's a massive difference between a poorly maintained property that's an eye sore and simply keeping your tent trailer on you driveway.

Whats the difference between this:
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and this?
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Does either cause you some sort of stress? Does it make you embarrassed to live near it? I really don't understand.

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Old 09-23-2015, 03:28 PM   #84
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My bad. My screen auto adjusts it.

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Old 09-23-2015, 03:52 PM   #86
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I wish they would have to disclose who complained.
I thought they did have to, or else bylaw doesn't act on it? Or do they just gather it, but not tell it? If so, I've missed out on so many anonymous bylaw calls

edit: Ah yes, looked it up. They need your info, but it remains confidential. I guess to track abusers of the system maybe.
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The amount of people who threaten violence over parking issues (particularly in this thread) is incredibly concerning. Don't we all have bigger worries in our lives? Geezus.
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The problem with the first house is the pink painted downspout. That's an embarrassment.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:02 PM   #89
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K there's a massive difference between a poorly maintained property that's an eye sore and simply keeping your tent trailer on you driveway.

Whats the difference between this:
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and this?
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Does either cause you some sort of stress? Does it make you embarrassed to live near it? I really don't understand.
Yeah, it does cause me stress. Not saying that in a snide tone; just being honest. If it's been there for a few days, I think, 'cool, guess they're going camping.' By about the third week in I think, 'k, is that here to stay or what?'. By the four- or five-week mark, I think to myself, 'k, move that GD trailer or I'll call bylaw'. Week six, I'm calling bylaw.

I see a big difference between those two photos. One guy is using his driveway as intended, and one is using his as a storage lot. I get why it wouldn't bother you and I'm a bit envious that you wouldn't let what is really something minor get under your skin, but I'm not wired that way. Thankfully for me, enough people view the world through my lens that there is a bylaw against parking a trailer on your driveway so I have recourse to alleviate all my stress on the matter with a single phone call.
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As someone who has unique pet peeves I can see when someone else has one. You being stressed about a camper is in the norm I think. I wouldn't even notice if my neighbor was doing something for 6 months. Then if I saw this camper there all the time I'd think damn this guy likes camping.

I understand your concern but it's definitely not a common issue. Now that I think about it when I was a kid our neighbor had a camper on the driveway for a decade. Nobody ever even mentioned it in the 10 years that I lived there.
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It puzzles me that people will spend 10's of 1000's of dollars on a trailer but will not spend a dime to store the thing. Properly storing the thing is part of owning a trailer. Here in Lethbridge, they were trying to pass a bylaw (about 10? years ago)of no trailers stored in the front driveway/ lawn. I would be in support of this.

The thing with garages is, people will park $50k cars on the street or on the driveway, so they can store a bunch of ##### in their garage. There are places that rent out storage space for a very nominal fee.
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I understand your concern but it's definitely not a common issue. Now that I think about it when I was a kid our neighbor had a camper on the driveway for a decade. Nobody ever even mentioned it in the 10 years that I lived there.
And here's where I'm a total dick. When I was 19 I had a trailer with my girlfriend. An ugly 16-footer from the 1970s. We loved that thing. Where did I park it? My mom's driveway.

I'm not sure why people get more critical as they age. When you're young it's more of a live and let live thing where you don't get worked up about silly things like trailers on the driveway. I definitely see myself aging into the GET OFF MY LAWN guy.
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My mother in law has this gem near her place

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Fake.

Nobody in Forest Lawn can afford a late model Camry.
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Nobody in Forest Lawn can afford a late model Camry.
30.99% interest, and probably a former taxi cab.

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My neighbour did that for a little while, but got told by someone he couldn't. He moved from Forest Lawn though, so I suspect it seamed normal. I don't really blame him though, there is now space in front of his place as it is a pie lot. I told him he could park in front of my house, as I use my driveway. Crazy, right?
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Some people get so bent out of shape about this stuff. It is mind boggling to me. I have lived downtown or in the beltline, try keeping a "spot" that is yours unless you have parking in your building, lots don't.

I understand people parking their old crap cars on their lawn (it happens in the hood all the time) and parking a tent trailer folded down for the winter on someone's driveway can make a neighborhood look like crap and poor.

The OP's original post about this guy and his sign, just ridiculous. I used to have a neighbor who put duct tape on the ground in front of his house in our pie-shaped circle so we all knew where to park, like a parking lot. Haha, this coming from the guy who had a double garage out back and a parking pad. Needless to say we pulled up the tape pretty quickly.

Just so unnecessary. I think just talking to your neighbor politely about it is the best route, if they don't respect you enough to move their vehicle then maybe you aren't friends with them anyway, who cares if you call the bylaw services on them.

At my current house we have a driveway to our garage in the backyard that runs beside our house from the front of the house, we can easily park 4 vehicles on it. We keep our crappy, ugly, terrible tent trailer parked there all year as far back as we can (basically beside our house. Is this allowed? Or is that bylaw only for driveways in front of attached garages like in the photo above?
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People fail to realize they have no claim to the spot in front of their house.

When I lived with my parents and parked on the street, I had one of the neighbors come and complain that I parked in front of their house for one night. ONE NIGHT. Good thing it was my dad that answered the door cause I would have snapped.

There was someone in the spot I usually parked in and I specifically parked in the spot I chose for the night cause they never parked cars on the road. I guess I could MAYBE understand their frustration if I was parked there for a week or something but even then I would struggle to sympathize with them as THEY DON'T ####ING PARK THERE.

I don't care if my car being in front of your house annoys you. It's not your property. Deal with it.
If its once in a while it's not a big deal. Or even at times on a high traffic street or in a busy area like downtown where that is an unavoidable occurrance, but if you park in front of someone elses house in a suburbanish area frequently for long periods of time or overnight then you are being a ######. It doesnt matter if its against the law or not. It's not against the law to talk loudly in a movie theater, pound your stereo/subs with your windows down while gassing up your car (probably with your shirt off) or take a coworkers lunch out of the fridge at work, you are still an inconsiderate ###### if you do it.
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If its once in a while it's not a big deal. Or even at times on a high traffic street or in a busy area like downtown where that is an unavoidable occurrance, but if you park in front of someone elses house in a suburbanish area frequently for long periods of time or overnight then you are being a ######. It doesnt matter if its against the law or not. It's not against the law to talk loudly in a movie theater, pound your stereo/subs with your windows down while gassing up your car (probably with your shirt off) or take a coworkers lunch out of the fridge at work, you are still an inconsiderate ###### if you do it.
Come on, seriously, taking someone's regular parking spot? People need to walk and exercise a bit more, maybe someone is just looking out for their well being and wants to make them walk a bit farther each day. It all adds up! They are just looking out for them.

I just can't get over how worked up people get about parking. Try living anywhere else in the world, this wouldn't even be a concern. You find parking when you can. Naive Canadians really.
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