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Old 07-19-2015, 02:40 AM   #81
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Go for it, I don't want one bad enough to spend money.
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I like that Ferland is keeping 79. For some reason it fits
I think it helps after a wicked playoff performance where Jim Hughson coins the phase " Here comes the 79 train from Brandon!!!!"

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They did let bygones be bygones and he is hanging in the rafters at the dome. The fact that the Flames org. Has decided they don't retire jerseys and honour in a different fashion now has nothing to do with any hard feelings towards Nieuwy.

I'm fine if people don't like the Forever a Flame thing, but it's not a secondary honour they've bestowed upon him, it's what they are doing now.
It is a secondary honour, how is it not. They will still retire a number for specific players, but have now added this as well for others.

Since having your number retired holds a higher status in the majority of peoples opinion and Forever a Flame is for those that don't qualify for having the number retired but still the organization wants to honour them.... i don't see why it wouldn't be considered secondary
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They will still retire a number
Will they? When it was launched I thought it was to replace number retirement. Not supplement.
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Will they? When it was launched I thought it was to replace number retirement. Not supplement.
Pretty sure it was to honor great Flames who didn't quite deserve to have their numbers retired.

Iggy and Kipper will have their #'s retired. Theo maybe if he can keep from saying dumb stuff for a year or two
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Old 07-19-2015, 10:35 AM   #86
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Pretty sure it was to honor great Flames who didn't quite deserve to have their numbers retired.

Iggy and Kipper will have their #'s retired. Theo maybe if he can keep from saying dumb stuff for a year or two
Hmmm. My understanding is that the Forever a Flame program completely replaced any number retirement program. I thought I remember reading/hearing King specifically say as much.

This article (including King's quote) seems to support my understanding: http://thehockeywriters.com/calgary-...rever-a-shame/

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Hmmm. My understanding is that the Forever a Flame program completely replaced any number retirement program. I thought I remember reading/hearing King specifically say as much.

This article (including King's quote) seems to support my understanding: http://thehockeywriters.com/calgary-...rever-a-shame/
Maybe you should read it again then. Of course King would say what he did, he needs to sell the fact that they are not retireing the numbers (25, 2)... much like a salesman looking to sell you a lesser product that's "just as good as the original"

The honour system they use as an example in the article (Leafs) also retires numbers if they fall in a specific criteria (active roster death as a maple leaf). The Flames are not as deathly but they do require the hnoured member to be a continued staple in the Calgary community
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Old 07-19-2015, 11:37 AM   #88
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Weren't the Flames wanting to retire MacInnis' number, but he declined while waiting for the Blues to do so first? Maybe that is when they decided to honor numbers instead of retiring them. If they don't retire MacInnis and Nieuwendyk, I don't think anyone else really deserves a retired number probably up until Iginla. I love Kipper, but I don't see his number being retired, just honored.

Also, boo on Bennett for not using 39 - would have looked great on him. Gilmour was probably at his best in Calgary wearing 39, and won a cup here. I guess Gilmour went on to have more appreciation in the league due to him being 'the guy' in the biggest hockey market in the NHL, but still a bit disappointed to see Bennett take 93 instead of 39. At least 93 was the 2nd best number he could have selected, so it isn't a huge 'boo'.. just a slight one
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Weren't the Flames wanting to retire MacInnis' number, but he declined while waiting for the Blues to do so first? Maybe that is when they decided to honor numbers instead of retiring them. If they don't retire MacInnis and Nieuwendyk, I don't think anyone else really deserves a retired number probably up until Iginla. I love Kipper, but I don't see his number being retired, just honored.

Also, boo on Bennett for not using 39 - would have looked great on him. Gilmour was probably at his best in Calgary wearing 39, and won a cup here. I guess Gilmour went on to have more appreciation in the league due to him being 'the guy' in the biggest hockey market in the NHL, but still a bit disappointed to see Bennett take 93 instead of 39. At least 93 was the 2nd best number he could have selected, so it isn't a huge 'boo'.. just a slight one
Considering Bennett is only 19, 93 would be the only number he's ever watched Gilmour wear.
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Maybe you should read it again then. Of course King would say what he did, he needs to sell the fact that they are not retireing the numbers (25, 2)... much like a salesman looking to sell you a lesser product that's "just as good as the original"

The honour system they use as an example in the article (Leafs) also retires numbers if they fall in a specific criteria (active roster death as a maple leaf). The Flames are not as deathly but they do require the hnoured member to be a continued staple in the Calgary community
I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm was pretty confident that the retirement of numbers is over.
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Maybe you should read it again then. Of course King would say what he did, he needs to sell the fact that they are not retireing the numbers (25, 2)... much like a salesman looking to sell you a lesser product that's "just as good as the original"

The honour system they use as an example in the article (Leafs) also retires numbers if they fall in a specific criteria (active roster death as a maple leaf). The Flames are not as deathly but they do require the hnoured member to be a continued staple in the Calgary community
I've always thought that of all the teams to imitate when it comes to honouring "legacy", Toronto is the last team that should serve as an example.
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I didn't trust myself enough to do it on my own, but if you did go that route, isn't there also an adhesive to deal with? When I got my jersey back from the tailors, the spot where the name bar used to be had this leftover, white residue everywhere, which you had to scrub pretty hard to remove (I just did the edges where "Russell" wouldn't cover, the rest would be covered up anyway).

Not trying to dissuade you, if you feel confident removing it yourself, by all means do. I just suspect there may be more to removing the bar than just stitching. When I saw all that residue upon picking it up, I was glad I hadn't tried to do it myself. I'm also a complete dud with that kinda stuff though.
I've started doing this -- the stitches are small but quite easy to remove (Cammalleri is long name, so it isn't a one sitting job...). When I start to peel the name bar away where I've removed them, there is that white residue you mention. It is a very light adhesive though, the name bar peels off quite easily. So if the residue was left over they really just pulled the stitches out and peeled the name bar off.
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Old 07-20-2015, 01:50 PM   #93
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Relating to jerseys, I found this from reddit: http://www.coolhockey.com/m22/Calgar...html?cPath=113

There's a flash sale for named jerseys, 150 bucks? Anyone know if these are legit replicas? The posters on reddit say they're real but I'm a bit skeptical.
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The lettering looks small...
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Anyone know if these are legit replicas? The posters on reddit say they're real but I'm a bit skeptical.
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Bunch of guys vouching for them on HF boards.

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The numbers looked a little weird to me, but it also looks like they shopped the number onto the jersey, rather than having a lettered jersey in stock and taking a photo of it.

I'm a touch skeptical of that.
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They don't likely have them in stock fully-lettered.

There would be no reason for them to have a bunch of pre-made jerseys unless they have a store-front where people can walk in and buy the jerseys directly. Even then, since they're based in Toronto, they wouldn't likely have a lot of Flames jerseys in stock.

It makes more sense for them to have a bunch of blanks in various sizes and the necessary lettering kits so that they can customize whatever jerseys people order.


I have never ordered from them, but I don't see any reason to think coolhockey.com isn't legitimate.
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Relating to jerseys, I found this from reddit: http://www.coolhockey.com/m22/Calgar...html?cPath=113

There's a flash sale for named jerseys, 150 bucks? Anyone know if these are legit replicas? The posters on reddit say they're real but I'm a bit skeptical.
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Hmmm. My understanding is that the Forever a Flame program completely replaced any number retirement program. I thought I remember reading/hearing King specifically say as much.

This article (including King's quote) seems to support my understanding: http://thehockeywriters.com/calgary-...rever-a-shame/
Thank you for posting this. It should be required reading for anyone posting on this thread. It totally explains how FAF works and why it is totally cheesy.
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Maybe you should read it again then. Of course King would say what he did, he needs to sell the fact that they are not retireing the numbers (25, 2)... much like a salesman looking to sell you a lesser product that's "just as good as the original"

The honour system they use as an example in the article (Leafs) also retires numbers if they fall in a specific criteria (active roster death as a maple leaf). The Flames are not as deathly but they do require the hnoured member to be a continued staple in the Calgary community
No, you need to read it again. FAF REPLACES number retirement and no mention is made of any exception where someone's number would get retired.
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