05-19-2015, 11:23 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Do you have an obligation to secure your internet connection? Or could you leave it open or just claim your password was hacked because it was your phone number and you didn't change it in 10 years.
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05-20-2015, 01:59 PM
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#82
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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What's the situation if it's a renter that caused the violation.
I got a notice on the weekend and thought it was spam at first since I have Telus at home, but then I remembered that Shaw is at my rental property and included in the condo fees so I don't charge for it.
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Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?
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05-20-2015, 05:47 PM
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#83
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermitology
What's the situation if it's a renter that caused the violation.
I got a notice on the weekend and thought it was spam at first since I have Telus at home, but then I remembered that Shaw is at my rental property and included in the condo fees so I don't charge for it.
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Tip #1 - Don't drop the soap.
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05-20-2015, 08:12 PM
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#84
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2015/05/c...notice-system/
Looks like the notices are effective, I wonder how much of that is people stopping, and how much is people moving to ways that are more difficult to measure.
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Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
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05-20-2015, 11:03 PM
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#85
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
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Well these notices got me to finally invest in a VPN/proxy solution. I'm guessing I'm far from alone in doing so
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05-21-2015, 08:26 AM
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#86
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Newsgroups are also an option...
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05-22-2015, 06:46 AM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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The best option is to simply never enter log in info for your ISP email address. Thus way, you never get the notices and therefore remain unconcerned by any of this.
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05-23-2015, 12:35 AM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Best option is to stop stealing content. How about that?
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05-23-2015, 07:34 AM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
Best option is to stop stealing content. How about that?
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But where is the fun in that?
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05-23-2015, 12:39 PM
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#90
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
Best option is to stop stealing content. How about that?
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What did you pay for your avatar?
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05-24-2015, 07:32 PM
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#91
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
Best option is to stop stealing content. How about that?
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I'll stop when copyright stops at something less than infinity.
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05-24-2015, 07:56 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueski
I'll stop when copyright stops at something less than infinity.
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This is a strange stance to take. Are you avoiding stealing any material that is earlier than your own desired length of time?
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05-24-2015, 08:59 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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I have friends that received cease and desist notices for out-of-print content. How is that fair?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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05-24-2015, 09:04 PM
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#94
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
This is a strange stance to take. Are you avoiding stealing any material that is earlier than your own desired length of time?
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No, I'm copying (not stealing) anything I want. Copyright at 95-120 years is absurd. There is no balance between what is good for art and society, its all slanted towards the distributors. So they have gotten very little money from me in the last 15 years.
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05-24-2015, 09:06 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Not sure
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I tend to buy from the artist if at all possible. At least then I know they get a fair share of the money.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bingo.
Maybe he hates cowboy boots.
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05-24-2015, 09:22 PM
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#96
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keratosis
I tend to buy from the artist if at all possible. At least then I know they get a fair share of the money.
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Seeing them in concert helps too.
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05-25-2015, 07:36 AM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
Best option is to stop stealing content. How about that?
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Now that's a bit too simplistic a response.
"stealing content" by whose definition?
I can watch network television OTA.
I can digitally record this content to watch when I want, but I am 'stealing' this same content when I watch from an online source?
Please...
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05-25-2015, 08:52 AM
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#98
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueski
No, I'm copying (not stealing) anything I want. Copyright at 95-120 years is absurd.
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Term of copyright survival is 50 years after the artist dies, not 95-120... Surely you're not suggesting that artists should lose the rights to their own works while they're still alive.
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"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
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05-25-2015, 09:47 AM
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#99
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Term of copyright survival is 50 years after the artist dies, not 95-120... Surely you're not suggesting that artists should lose the rights to their own works while they're still alive.
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I quoted the American law which for most purposes is the relevant one.
Yes absolutely, why should their longevity be relevant? Let them lose it after 20 years. And who are we kidding, most musical works are in fact derivative.
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05-25-2015, 09:59 AM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueski
No, I'm copying (not stealing) anything I want. Copyright at 95-120 years is absurd. There is no balance between what is good for art and society, its all slanted towards the distributors. So they have gotten very little money from me in the last 15 years.
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So do you wait the 20 years you think is fair before (we'll avoid the term stealing) illegally enjoying content meant to be purchased it paid for in some other manner?
Your rationalizing here and no matter how you do it, your action isn't ethical even if your stance is (which is debatable). Either way you aren't giving the author or distributor any money. There's no ethical support there.
It's fine, it's incredibly small theft and I've done it at times when I can't find any simple way to access what I want too. Just cut the "I'm stealing ethically" crap
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