Backlund is a secret star!

[ForeverFlameFan]

Maybe Glencross can be debated, but I would much prefer Stemps over Jones and Seto.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Maybe Glencross can be debated, but I would much prefer Stemps over Jones and Seto.

I am not a Glencross fan but he is a much better player than Stemps. Can't say I disagree about Jones or Seto though, both should be in the AHL.

[Anduril]

If Setoguchi could become what Stempniak is, this would be a successful signing. Jones isn't a big deal since we need a body to sit one way or another.

Don't see what would be wrong with Stempniak not being a top 5 target. There were easily a number of other attractive choices to be considered first.

[Enoch Root]

No wonder it's a secret - all we can do is talk about Stempniak and Glencross (again)

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

How does it feel to be a Glencross hater?

WTH has Glencross done to you? Do you hate all rodeo cowboys who have taken home town discounts to play with the Flames?

^^^^

Obvious BS to show the argument technique common used to shut down non-fanboy debate.

There was a thread Name your top 5 UFA targets for the Flames where nobody at all on CP suggested that Stempniak should be signed.

This surprised me as there were alot who thought that he should be extened or re-signed prior to the trade to Pitts

You really don't have anything to say, because you're the same kind of obsessed that 'where are u chris o'sullivan' is.

You didn't just dislike Stempniak, you went out of your way to bring him up in nearly every post you made. And it was long winded, hateful ramblings.

Stempniak was a 3rd line player. The amount of energy you put into insinuating he was the downfall of this team was bewildering. It's really along the same lines of the poster we're talking about here, because there's a big difference between not being a fan of a certain player to having some bizarre obsession with them to the point where it's the only reason you come to this forum.

[Bingo]

Best thing for me was the treliving comments, and the fact they realize Backlund's impact from last season. Hate to see a guy doing all the little things right get overlooked at contract time.

Lock him down!

[Dan403]

Backlund is a really good player. He is going to get better.

Anyone who can't see or can't acknowledge this doesn't know hockey very well.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Where ru Chris O'Sullivan

1) That Draft wasn't great unless you drafted someone named Jamie Benn
2) I still don't see his play as anything spectacular and if he doesn't continually improve (his age will and he'll gone soon enough).
3) One reason to rebuild is because you realize that prior to it, you may have been a good team with some good players, but you know that it won't lead to playoff successes. We have a cup from '89, how many Backlund types did we have on that team? What advanced stat will tell me that he won't go into the corners (unless vs. a Sedin Sister etc.) Won't finish a check and likewise.
4) You said you wouldn't go advanced stats, but then you brought up QofC and starts. I've made light of this on several threads, but why don't the advance stat guys - like yourself, bring us names of comparison. I just want to hear from one of you, that yes, he was better that J Toews, Sid Crosby, J Williams etc.

Wow, this sums it up. So because he is not an elite player in the league - a Benn, Toews, Crosby.. or.. Williams(?? funny Williams is listed with the others here), then that means Backlund sucks and should be replaced.

I am assuming then, that anyone on the Flames who is not a bona fide superstar be replaced with one. I totally understand where you are coming from.

Yes, I did bring up SOME advanced stats, but I am glad I did. At least you acknowledged those. What about the regular stats I brought up? Not a single rebuttal from those.

Seriously, you do have all the answers. The Flames should ONLY be including superstars on their roster. Not good players. Not great players. Not top line players or top pairing defencemen, but outright superstars.

Ovie - Crosby - Malkin
Benn - Toews - Williams (?? lol)
Marleau - Thornton - ?
? - MacKinnon - ?

Weber - Subban
Keith - ?
? - ?

Price
Rask

I will need you to fill in the blanks for me. Getting difficult to decide between players.

/Chris O'Sullivan fantasy chat.

Ok, which players was Backlund better than? In what way? Scoring? Just go to nhl.com/stats and order the list last season according to points, or goals if that is what you prefer. The guys ahead of where Backlund is ranked would be 'better', the guys below him would be worse, and the guys with the same amount of points would be tied. Sounds simple enough to do, right?

For other metrics, you tell me what you consider better. Number of hits? Speed? Shutdown ability? Faceoff? Fighting? Leadership? IQ?

This article shows that Backlund is a very, very good defensive forward. I am not sure what kind of team you expect, but I should hope high-end defensive forwards that can play and shut-down (and even out-produce, as Backlund has shown) against top lines in the NHL are so very important to a winning team. No?