I'm glad that you managed to shoehorn every buzzword that your Women's Studies Prof said in your first semester into that post, but I'm proficient in BS and know when someone is trying to shove it into my face.
Boiling your whole lot of nonsense into one sentence:
"If men didnt want to have sex with women the world would be a better place."
Sorry though, thats not the world that the rest of us live in.
Not proficient in satirical hyperbole today though, eh?
Would be interesting to see a list of posters banned or sin binned for purposefully pushing the line on these new guidelines over the next couple days.
Would be interesting to see a list of posters banned or sin binned for purposefully pushing the line on these new guidelines over the next couple days.
We have no intention of banning people. We will issue warnings and encourage a poster to adapt before we do that
Although we could debate whether the continued consumption of women as sex symbols is perpetuating a cycle wherein women feel compelled to satisfy the male gaze in order to obtain status in a patriarchal society, or whether due to inequalities in opportunity and pay, women are forced into subjecting themselves to objectification for profit, and whether this really constitutes consent in a broader sense. In addition, the pornography business has massive ties to human-trafficking rings, which presents another fly in the ointment, but may we'll leave all of this for another time.
Although we could debate whether the continued consumption of women as sex symbols is perpetuating a cycle wherein women feel compelled to satisfy the male gaze in order to obtain status in a patriarchal society, or whether due to inequalities in opportunity and pay, women are forced into subjecting themselves to objectification for profit, and whether this really constitutes consent in a broader sense. In addition, the pornography business has massive ties to human-trafficking rings, which presents another fly in the ointment, but may we'll leave all of this for another time.
You could have just said agency. That's why we all love beyonce.
It's a place to learn for free. Or is that not cool anymore...
Prager writes for World Net Daily. He's a huge opponent of same sex marriage. He said a Muslim congressman swearing an oath on the Koran was more devastating to American values than 9/11. He's a loon.
Free education isn't cool when it's "education".
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Prager writes for World Net Daily. He's a huge opponent of same sex marriage. He said a Muslim congressman swearing an oath on the Koran was more devastating to American values than 9/11. He's a loon.
Free education isn't cool when it's "education".
So Sommers suffers from guilt by association? I'm not talking about Prager nor do I follow any views that support hate. I am vocal about my dislike of extreme feminist views as it supports and sells hate. Like the wage gap topic.
But on this board the topic just goes around in circles.
I am vocal about my dislike of extreme feminist views as it supports and sells hate. Like the wage gap topic.
Can you please kindly explain how recognizing that boys and girls are both overtly and subtly encouraged to pursue different educational and career paths pretty much from early childhood and that men and women are frequently expected to take on different roles vis-à-vis bread-winning/child-raising, and that these societal pressures result in often extreme variances in male vs. female lifetime earnings is an "extreme feminist view" that "sells hate"?
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Can you please kindly explain how recognizing that boys and girls are both overtly and subtly encouraged to pursue different educational and career paths pretty much from early childhood and that men and women are frequently expected to take on different roles vis-à-vis bread-winning/child-raising, and that these societal pressures result in often extreme variances in male vs. female lifetime earnings is an "extreme feminist view" that "sells hate"?
Also explain how even when a field is dominated by women--often the few men in that industry still make more money than the many women?
If the wage gap is actually such a non-issue, why is the GOP so insistent on refusing to address it with legislation? If it's not actually an issue, they should have no issue signing off on a law keeping it that way, right?
Can you please kindly explain how recognizing that boys and girls are both overtly and subtly encouraged to pursue different educational and career paths pretty much from early childhood and that men and women are frequently expected to take on different roles vis-à-vis bread-winning/child-raising, and that these societal pressures result in often extreme variances in male vs. female lifetime earnings is an "extreme feminist view" that "sells hate"?
http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/raising-our-boys/
Very interesting article from a few years ago. In Canada women outnumber men at universities by a wide margin. Women are more educated, have higher employment rates, and have lower high school/university dropout rates than men.
Even women studying law and medicine now outnumber men at Canadian universities.
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It found that childless urban women under the age of 30 earn, on average, eight per cent more than their male peers.
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Also explain how even when a field is dominated by women--often the few men in that industry still make more money than the many women?
If the wage gap is actually such a non-issue, why is the GOP so insistent on refusing to address it with legislation? If it's not actually an issue, they should have no issue signing off on a law keeping it that way, right?
The wage gap isn't as simple as it's made out to be. Amanda Lang from CBC business has a great view on this.
http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/raising-our-boys/
Very interesting article from a few years ago. In Canada women outnumber men at universities by a wide margin. Women are more educated, have higher employment rates, and have lower high school/university dropout rates than men.
Even women studying law and medicine now outnumber men at Canadian universities.
How many female university students major in high-paying fields like engineering and computer science? Conversely, how many men major in low-paying fields like social work and childhood development?
What percentage of c-suite executives and corporate board members are women? Is it so low because women are innately inferior to men at leading companies? Or are there perhaps other reasons, like the ones I mentioned in my post above, that lead to the gender discrepancy?
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http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/raising-our-boys/
Very interesting article from a few years ago. In Canada women outnumber men at universities by a wide margin. Women are more educated, have higher employment rates, and have lower high school/university dropout rates than men.
Even women studying law and medicine now outnumber men at Canadian universities.
Congratulations on earning your Masters degree and playing chicken with biology while you hold off on children for as long you dare... Here's 8% more pay than this guy who graduated from high school.
Hyperbole, *obviously*, but I would question why if women are more educated and more employable, the discrepancy is only 8%. And the caveat in there of "under 30 and childless" is not insignificant, either. Biology sort of dictates that the person with the uterus is the one who's going to have the child. Even if Dad stays home, there's still career implications for the woman since she goes through the pregnancy, takes time off to physically recover, etc.
How many female university students major in high-paying fields like engineering and computer science? Conversely, how many men major in low-paying fields like social work and childhood development?
What percentage of c-suite executives and corporate board members are women? Is it so low because women are innately inferior to men at leading companies? Or are there perhaps other reasons, like the ones I mentioned in my post above, that lead to the gender discrepancy?
You are obviously out of touch with reality here and have no idea how much female dominated professions make. A first year registered nurse will make more than $80 000 in Alberta. It would be very tough for a first year eng grad to make this money. A RN with 10 years experience will be making $110 000/year.
You also completely ignored the fact the law and medicine programs in Canada are majority female. As for high paying professions it doesn't get much better than these. I don't know the Dentist stats but I assume they are the similar.
Not necessarily, but it certainly is a useful heuristic. Either she agrees with him enough to be associated with him, or didn't do any homework on him, either case makes me less inclined to invest a lot of effort into seeing if what she's saying has any merit.
She certainly didn't seem to think it necessary to support anything she says in the video, the first link in the details of the video isn't a list of sources, but a link to donate.
Look at the video titles on their University:
History: "Was it Wrong to Drop the Atom Bomb on Japan?"
PolySci: "Is the UN Unfair to Israel"
History: "Why is modern art so bad?"
PolySci: "How the Liberal University Hurts the Liberal Student"
Religion: "God vs. Atheism: Which is More Rational?"
All 5ish minute videos, none of which had a single reference that I saw.
I don't know if I should laugh or weep.
That's not eduction, it's just preaching. Not even preaching, when I preached at least I supported what I was saying.
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You are obviously out of touch with reality here and have no idea how much female dominated professions make. A first year registered nurse will make more than $80 000 in Alberta. It would be very tough for a first year eng grad to make this money. A RN with 10 years experience will be making $110 000/year.
You also completely ignored the fact the law and medicine programs in Canada are majority female. As for high paying professions it doesn't get much better than these. I don't know the Dentist stats but I assume they are the similar.
A first year RN who gets a 1.0 line, maybe. But most first year RN's (in my experience anyways, with my friends) pick up casual lines because they can't get hired to a line (even a 0.6 or 0.8) because they have no seniority with the union.
And I'm an engineer and I think $80k/year in Alberta is probably not out of the realm of reality if you graduate with internship experience. I know how much I made my first year out several years ago.
And an Alberta engineer with 10 years experience is likely making more than the RN at 10 years. We could look at the APEGA survey to see.
I don't think the point is to compare what female doctors and dentists make vs the general male population. What do female doctors and dentists make compared to male doctors and dentists, with equivalent education and experience?
Last time I looked at the APEGA survey, for example, female engineering salaries still lagged male engineering salaries of equivalent education, experience, and job levels.
You are obviously out of touch with reality here and have no idea how much female dominated professions make. A first year registered nurse will make more than $80 000 in Alberta.
Yes, I'm the one who is out of touch with reality. The average annual salary for all RNs in Alberta is ~$64k (source); we can reasonably expect that recent graduates just entering the profession will be making much less than that. So I'm highly skeptical of your claim that first-year RNs "will make more than $80 000 in Alberta", and you provided no citation to support your assertion.
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You also completely ignored the fact the law and medicine programs in Canada are majority female. As for high paying professions it doesn't get much better than these. I don't know the Dentist stats but I assume they are the similar.
TBQH's video even touched on that -- higher-paying specializations like cardiology and neurology are dominated by men while female doctors more frequently choose lower-paying specializations like pediatrics and general practice. Why do you suppose that is?
