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Old 09-12-2014, 12:11 PM   #81
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This is such a big change in the rules I'm a little surprised that nobody is mentioning it more, especially the bolded part. Basically, the only way the face-off will ever be outside the zone is if the player shoots the puck directly over the glass without anyone or anything touching it, that or it goes out and comes back in off-side. It already stays in if it goes off the goalie or defending team, so basically you're going to see shots galore if there's any opportunity to get it anywhere near the net. Zone entry is still very difficult and a major impediment to a consistent offensive attack. When dumping the puck is most often the best option, and you're definitely not assured of retrieving the puck to create an attack, taking what was a neutral zone face-off and making it an offensive zone face-off will do two things: 1) put a heck of a lot more emphasis on face-offs and centers, and 2) create a lot more sustained pressure on offense.

Probably a good rule change, but it will definitely do a lot to change the way the game is played. Add in the face-off rule changes with penalties and it's now a lot more difficult to defend in the NHL. Goals will likely go up, not a bad thing at all.
Exactly, I can even see it becoming a strategy to enter the zone. Just shoot the puck high on the glass so that it leaves play. That way you are getting an offensive zone faceoff, without trying to enter the zone... or am I missing something?

Edit: nvm, already being discussed...

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Old 09-12-2014, 12:13 PM   #82
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i know the spinerama move looks like novice hockey, but it is also fun.....the reality now is that if a player is on a breakaway during normal game play, he can do the spinerama - but if he is hauled down by the d-man and awarded a penalty shot then he can't use the spinerama.....why not just draw a rectangle on the ice and say on a PS or in the SO you need to shoot the puck from inside this area.....
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:18 PM   #83
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Issue with the spinorama is that it was 50/50 for the most part if the player would run into the goalie or not.

Call was too hard to make on the ice, and I know there were a few times where I thought a goal shouldn't have counted since the player bumped the goalie.
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:21 PM   #84
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i know the spinerama move looks like novice hockey, but it is also fun.....the reality now is that if a player is on a breakaway during normal game play, he can do the spinerama - but if he is hauled down by the d-man and awarded a penalty shot then he can't use the spinerama.....why not just draw a rectangle on the ice and say on a PS or in the SO you need to shoot the puck from inside this area.....
Screw that, if its a circus they want then lets make it a real circus:

In the shootout the shooters can only have one skate on and the goaltender has to take his skates off and has to use one of those novelty mini-sticks.

No more rules about the puck having to move forward, lets get the wraparound in there.

If theres a tie after three shooters the coach has to shoot pucks at the goaltender using a t-shirt cannon specially modified for pucks.

If that doesnt solve the matter then the ice girls have to try and score using their shovels.

One ice girl will be allowed to continuously beat the goaltender over the head with the trash can just to make things fair.

If all of this remains insufficient then the goaltenders shall have to defeat the home team's mascot in unarmed, honey-pool combat.

Now that is something people would pay to watch!
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:01 PM   #85
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I think I'm one of the few people who like the shootout. And I've played competitive hockey all my life (well until I got old and fat and now play beer leagues).

It's an actual game scenario, it's exciting, it rewards skill, and it avoids ties which I hated.

I've heard the arguments against and I understand, but I still just can't help liking it!
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:29 PM   #86
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At it's absolute best, the shootout rewards only one very specific skill to the complete exclusion of all others that are required to usually win a hockey game. And frankly, I would argue that it actually rewards luck far more than it does skill.
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Old 09-13-2014, 03:22 AM   #87
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I agree it will eliminate the winger from coming in to purposely get kicked out.

It will also allow the center to attempt to win the draw through cheating with impunity. If he doesn't get caught win, if he does get caught he still gets another chance.
I don't know why you're carrying on about this or how it's different than current faceoffs. Guys try to cheat all the time on faceoffs and the linseman doesn't drop the puck or repositions the guys or warns them or throws them out. All this does is add a penalty to the mix after a warning and an icing. It changes nothing else.
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:41 AM   #88
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It doesn't even add a penalty. That already existed. What it does is take away the 15 second delay to get another player in the circle.
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Old 09-13-2014, 10:36 AM   #89
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Glad they are removing the spinorama from shoot outs. It is a nifty move but players that used it were pushing the boundaries to where it was jmo becoming a case of goalie interference.
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So much for the rules cracking down on diving.
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I like the shootout and don't understand the blathering on about it
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For the record my user name is pronounced Dissent. Owner.
and here I always thought you were a towner from Dissen.
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Old 10-11-2014, 04:53 PM   #93
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Rather than the trapezoid, how about a line beyond where goaltenders cannot freeze the puck...say 18" out from the crease? Would keep the puck live under attack, and prevent a few scenarios we saw last year in the playoffs where goalies freeze the puck 10 feet out or all the way behind the net (I recall Quick doing it a few times).
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