[News] Feaster says Iginla rejected trade to Boston

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Did he do the right thing by his long term employer by which he had a very mutally beneficial relationship with and that treated him exceptionally well, not in my opinion. Business is business, he had the right to do what he did. But there are lots of things that I have the "right" to do at work or in my personal life, but that doesn't make them the "right" things to do.

There's no doubt the Flames demonstrated more sentimentality in the negotiations Iginla did. But for me, the takeaway isn't that Iginla should have been nicer - the takeaway is that Flames management in the future should shelve all sentimentality and treat these things like a hard-headed business deal.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Seems like Tampa was able to get more for St. Louis who demanded a trade, and only to one team. 1st + 2nd + Callahan (upcoming UFA who they can flip now for additional assets).

Like I said, some GMs are able to get value in a trade under tough circumstances. Feaster wasn't, even while playing Boston and Pittsburgh off one another.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Seems like Tampa was able to get more for St. Louis who demanded a trade, and only to one team. 1st + 2nd + Callahan (upcoming UFA who they can flip now for additional assets).

Like I said, some GMs are able to get value in a trade under tough circumstances. Feaster wasn't, even while playing Boston and Pittsburgh off one another.

What do you think that has more to do with? Yzerman's dominant negotiating skills or the fact that St. Louis is a better player now than Iginla was then, that he is a much more attractive asset with another year left on his deal, and that this upcoming draft is considerably weaker than last year's?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

There's no doubt the Flames demonstrated more sentimentality in the negotiations Iginla did. But for me, the takeaway isn't that Iginla should have been nicer - the takeaway is that Flames management in the future should shelve all sentimentality and treat these things like a hard-headed business deal.

I agree the lesson learned is all on the Flames side, 100%. I just don't like defense of Iggy on this by many fans, he screwed the Flames at the end in what seemed to be a very trusting relationship. And to be honest, I feel he screwed them by being irrational, feeling like you are only comfortable going to just 1 team is just silly from his point of view. I even feel like he picked the wrong contender for what he had to offer, he'd have been a better fit IMO in Chicago, LA or Boston and would have helped himself win a cup more by going to those teams. But that's just my thoughts, far from fact.

Point being, the Flames needed to be more diligent, lesson learned, but to think Iggy would honor his list of 4 (very amazing teams) likely shouldn't have been a stretch for the Flames, and I'm sure they were caught of guard by his stance at the last minute. Iginla just simply isn't the flawless individual many will fight to the bitter end to suggest he is, and that's ok. Still my favourite player, but don't love what he did last year.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Seems like Tampa was able to get more for St. Louis who demanded a trade, and only to one team. 1st + 2nd + Callahan (upcoming UFA who they can flip now for additional assets).

Like I said, some GMs are able to get value in a trade under tough circumstances. Feaster wasn't, even while playing Boston and Pittsburgh off one another.

MSL isn't a pending UFA.
The Flames were faced with a scenario where they could get what they could get - or get nothing when he walks in the summer.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

What do you think that has more to do with? Yzerman's dominant negotiating skills or the fact that St. Louis is a better player now than Iginla was then, that he is a much more attractive asset with another year left on his deal, and that this upcoming draft is considerably weaker than last year's?

Sure, all of the above was true - but Iginla was arguably the biggest UFA trade bait last deadline, allowed the Flames to negotiate with 4 teams, and two rivals were trying to trade for him. It was still a sub-par return. Tampa made out like bandits considering St. Louis demanded a single team to be traded to.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Sure, all of the above was true - but Iginla was arguably the biggest UFA trade bait last deadline, allowed the Flames to negotiate with 4 teams, and two rivals were trying to trade for him. It was still a sub-par return. Tampa made out like bandits considering St. Louis demanded a single team to be traded to.

Yes, exactly Iggy was a UFA rental, St. Louis is not. Sit and think about that for a while.

[SuperMatt18]

Also was Iginla coming off an Art Ross Trophy?

Was he a recent gold medalist for Team Canada?

Was he on a PPG and 30+ goal pace?

St.Louis has much more value now then Iginla did last year, and St.Louis isn't a UFA so Yzerman didn't have to trade him or end up with nothing.

[CSharp]

I would bet that Iggy would've been in the 30+ goal range last year if the season was a full one. The guy's on pace for another 30+ goal season and he's on the Bruins team that's known more for their defensive playoff style than an offensive team like the Pens. Maybe if Burke was managing last year instead of Feaster, the Flames could've gotten more. Doesn't help when 80% of the Flames fans calls Iggy too old, washed up, and ready for retirement when he's still on the top line on another team and is still one of the leading scorers on the Bruins. Sometimes I wonder why we have the players that we have now and why players like St Louis and Iggy are elsewhere.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by CSharp

I would bet that Iggy would've been in the 30+ goal range last year if the season was a full one. The guy's on pace for another 30+ goal season and he's on the Bruins team that's known more for their defensive playoff style than an offensive team like the Pens. Maybe if Burke was managing last year instead of Feaster, the Flames could've gotten more. Doesn't help when 80% of the Flames fans calls Iggy too old, washed up, and ready for retirement when he's still on the top line on another team and is still one of the leading scorers on the Bruins. Sometimes I wonder why we have the players that we have now and why players like St Louis and Iggy are elsewhere.

I think you worry alot more about what some fans are saying then any NHL player does. Iggy and St. Louis playing elsewhere has nothing to do with fan opinion.

[Reign of Fire]

Is Feaster wearing that ring to rub it in?

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

It's a black eye and disgrace on this organization that it was jay feaster of all people who traded away the franchises greatest player.

Just be happy it wasn't Daryl!

[cannon7]

Feaster really got screwed by Iginla, but I didn't really like the Bruins offer much more than the Pens one. Considering what Ryan Miller or Martin St. Louis just got in return, we got screwed. But it's funny that Iginla picked the wrong team, he might have gotten himself a ring if he'd gone to Boston.

[calgarywinning]

Feasters auditioning for a job as an assistant GM or any hockey job on SN.

The reason for dealing Jarome was UFA and that we wouldn't have gotten anything for him. How many years left on St. Louis contract?

As far as treating it as a business there is an element of that, it is a decision that could only have made far earlier then the organization waited. However, I have argued that when we playing our last season with Jarome our losing trajectory would have ensured us a much higher draft pick which is far more valuable then what we got in return. In hindsight, i'm very happy with Monahan.

Also, as far as Jarome screwing Calgary, he made it clear that he did not want to be around for a rebuild as he wanted an opportunity to win a cup and therefore would only lift is NTC based on his evaluation of the teams opportunity. If Pittsburgh didn't make an offer, I am sure he would have okayed a Boston deal. Again, the time to trade him was several years ago.

[calgarywinning]

Oh yeah and maybe the Feaster bungling of the O'Reilly offer sheet put the Calgary organization at a disadvantage in the league on the trade circles as it definitely impacted our relationship.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Is Feaster wearing that ring to rub it in?

He's showing off his resume...... I like his change of tune, a few months ago it was all about "doing Jarome right" ...... now its not.

I get it, the guy wants a job..... but he is totally singing a different tune now.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I think you worry alot more about what some fans are saying then any NHL player does. Iggy and St. Louis playing elsewhere has nothing to do with fan opinion.

Meh, that's the opposite. I bet you that Iggy would've stayed and re-signed with the Flames if management, the fans, and the media undeniably says that the Flames would love for him to end his career here and that the rebuild needs him here. Sure, there are some decisions that was required for him to make in regards to winning the cup before he retires, but I don't think that was the biggest factor for him to do it. Once the motion for him to go that way, sure he went for the best team that could win the cup with. It all came down to the Flames management trying to please the crowd and not knowing what they're supposed to do.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Yes, exactly Iggy was a UFA rental, St. Louis is not. Sit and think about that for a while.

St. Louis forced a trade and gave his GM only 1 team to work with, while Iginla gave a list of 4 teams to his GM to work with. Yzerman waited until the very last day to get the best deal. Feaster did not. Yzerman negotiated a pretty damn good deal. Feaster did not. Not saying that Iginla = St. Louis and should have returned the same value.

Yzerman managed to negotiate a 'better than expected' deal, while Feaster got a 'less than expected' deal. That is the point. Not (again) saying Feaster should have received what Yzerman did.

As for the 'sit and think about it for a while' comment.. Please... sit and think for a while how unfunny your 'snarkiness' is.

[dissentowner]

Are we still re-hashing Jarome Iginla? Who cares.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Are we still re-hashing Jarome Iginla? Who cares.

You're in the Jarome Iginla/Feaster thread there, buddy.