Baby Boomers didnt left the economy in better shape

[CaramonLS]

So this study asked 'peers', what they thought about generalized age groups of people they work with.

Sounds like a recipe for stereotypes.

[habernac]

would there be stereotypes if they weren't true?

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by habernac

would there be stereotypes if they weren't true?

If I've learned anything from history it's that stereotypes are almost always true.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

If I've learned anything from history it's that stereotypes are almost always true.

I know it's a generalization, but as an example, have you ever heard of a bad German driver?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

As a gen Xer we have had to change how we were trained and educated to work in the 80's (paper, pen daytimers , iron first employer) from our boomer boss and then while we were still lower/middle level in a company had to change again to compete against the Gen Ys (computers, cells) . We even had to change how we deal with co workers (sexism, racism and such elevated drastically) in our time. I bet there is a crap load of us that took post secondary in the 80s only to find that what we took was obsolete 5 years later (again large part due to computers). So we have also had to adapt to that, mostly on our own time.
So now a lot of us are the boss and whatever way we learned over 20 years ago is obsolete and we have had to adapt to the Gen Y demands of group work, positive reinforcement, better tech savy, less boss dominance and more discussions.. Just to keep them happy and productive.

We have also had to adapt to how our kids are educated. The boomers were taught like us and so was the generation before that, there was very little change at all. Now look at the kids of boomers and how their kids are educated. You cant tell me that didn't take some work too. No report cards, no spelling marks, sports, it is enough to drive us insane but yet we have adapted too that.

I see Gen X being a very adaptable generation as they are caught between two generations so far apart due to the technological age and social issues.

Again, I am just going off of my co-workers and anyone who is Gen X seems to go kicking and screaming anytime there is change.

Gen X may adapt to change eventually, but they do not embrace it.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Again, I am just going off of my co-workers and anyone who is Gen X seems to go kicking and screaming anytime there is change.

Gen X may adapt to change eventually, but they do not embrace it.

That fits with what I have heard from friends in business, is that the biggest obstacle from their staff is resistance to change...probably just human nature.

[V]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

As a gen Xer we have had to change how we were trained and educated to work in the 80's (paper, pen daytimers , iron first employer) from our boomer boss and then while we were still lower/middle level in a company had to change again to compete against the Gen Ys (computers, cells) . We even had to change how we deal with co workers (sexism, racism and such elevated drastically) in our time. I bet there is a crap load of us that took post secondary in the 80s only to find that what we took was obsolete 5 years later (again large part due to computers). So we have also had to adapt to that, mostly on our own time.
So now a lot of us are the boss and whatever way we learned over 20 years ago is obsolete and we have had to adapt to the Gen Y demands of group work, positive reinforcement, better tech savy, less boss dominance and more discussions.. Just to keep them happy and productive.

We have also had to adapt to how our kids are educated. The boomers were taught like us and so was the generation before that, there was very little change at all. Now look at the kids of boomers and how their kids are educated. You cant tell me that didn't take some work too. No report cards, no spelling marks, sports, it is enough to drive us insane but yet we have adapted too that.

I see Gen X being a very adaptable generation as they are caught between two generations so far apart due to the technological age and social issues.

Huh, I thought I was Gen-X, but I must not be. I was born in 79, started went to post-secondary in the 90's and started my career in 2001. What you're saying sounds like a whole generation before me. What exactly is Gen-X?

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by V

Huh, I thought I was Gen-X, but I must not be. I was born in 79, started went to post-secondary in the 90's and started my career in 2001. What you're saying sounds like a whole generation before me. What exactly is Gen-X?

• Traditionalists: Born before 1946
• Boomers: 1946 – 1964
• Generation X (Gen X): 1965 – 1980
• Millennials or Generation Y (Gen Y): 1981 – 2000

slight variations on this dependant where you look. You would be at the back end of Gen Xs...a cusp baby so to speak that would share traits with both the X and Ys.

heres another that includes overlaps


Baby Boomers: 1946~1953 to 1964
This would make baby boomers, in the year 2010, somewhere in the ballpark of 46-64 years old.
Gen X: 1965 to 1976~1982
This would make generation X, in the year 2010, somewhere in the ballpark of 28-45 years old.
Gen Y: 1977~1982 to 1995~2001
This would make generation Y, in the year 2010, somewhere in the ballpark of 9-33 years old.
For the most part, Generation Y are the children of the Baby Boomers, and in some cases, grandchildren. This is due to them being around their prime reproductive years during the 1980s (the last baby boomers turned 18 in 1982). Thus, the echo boomers being a surge in population as an echo of the baby boomer post-war boom.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by habernac

would there be stereotypes if they weren't true?

While I agree that some stereotypes have hints of truth, sometimes it comes down to perception. If I can time 3x as fast as my boomer coworker, and get my work done in an hour, he stays till 5 pm, struggling away and gets less done, does he actually work harder than I do?

I think certain perceptions of how hard someone works is highly subjective for instance.

[mykalberta]

I stopped after 30 minutes, did the video actually say how the banks are printing/creating their own money?

They repeatedly say they are and yet they never explain it.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

I stopped after 30 minutes, did the video actually say how the banks are printing/creating their own money?

They repeatedly say they are and yet they never explain it.

Interest on debt is manufactured money. There is no actual money in existence to pay that debt, but it now exists regardless.

[Bootsy]

Originally Posted by V

Huh, I thought I was Gen-X, but I must not be. I was born in 79, started went to post-secondary in the 90's and started my career in 2001. What you're saying sounds like a whole generation before me. What exactly is Gen-X?

I'm in that same age group as you, that gap inbetween '77-'82 where we are neither or both Gen X/Y. If I go by the sterotypes I'd say that makes sense as I fall in the middle on many of the categories.

[V]

Well now I have an excuse for feeling so confused all the time.

[Cheese]

A Management course I took also suggested that a GenX or Yer could have Boomer traits, or vice versa. It was entirely dependent on a number of factors including how they were raised. Some people are just hard workers, others aren't and they don't fit the mold they were supposedly born into.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by fotze

What am I for a 74 birthday.

If you are 74 today you sir are a traditionalist ! ha!

j/kj/k

You are the Capital X in a game of X and Os

[flamesfever]

Actually I'm one of the forgotten ones i.e. Pre Boomer

In the 60's I hired a computer consultant to plot some core analysis for a study I was doing in the Pembina field. The computer would fill a large room and used punched cards.

In the early 70's I purchased a large Commodore calculator for $350.00. It replaced my slide rule.

In the early 80's I purchased my first computer...an IBM AT. It had 10 megabytes of hard disk and 512 kilobytes of RAM memory. It cost me $10,000. and the software cost me $5,000.

[saskflames69]

Speaking as a member on the tail end of Gen Y I now have to worry about (in the next 10-15 years):
- an ever-growing income gap
- expensive housing
- expensive education
- round the clock government surveillance
- increase in taxes, towards your pension programs and care homes so you can piss in a bedpan and make my (future) wife clean it up.

/end paranoia

Fortunately, the Boomers gave us some great music. You get points for that.

Why did the baby boomer store owner run out of chocolate?
He sold out and blamed it on his grandchildren.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

- round the clock government surveillance

This is the one that always makes me snicker. Seriously? Do you realize what kind of manpower round the clock surveillance entails? On a single person? Do you seriously believe that the government is keeping tabs on every single citizen, every hour of every day? If so, I have a tin foil hat and a bridge you may be interested in...

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

This is the one that always makes me snicker. Seriously? Do you realize what kind of manpower round the clock surveillance entails? On a single person? Do you seriously believe that the government is keeping tabs on every single citizen, every hour of every day? If so, I have a tin foil hat and a bridge you may be interested in...

If the government is keeping a consistent record of my browsing habits, my phone calls and my text messages then yes I would consider it round the clock surveillance.

Ask me about my opinions on 9/11, New World Order and the Rothschild family banking syndicate while you're at it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

Speaking as a member on the tail end of Gen Y I now have to worry about (in the next 10-15 years):
- an ever-growing income gap
- expensive housing
- expensive education
- round the clock government surveillance
- increase in taxes, towards your pension programs and care homes so you can piss in a bedpan and make my (future) wife clean it up.

/end paranoia

Fortunately, the Boomers gave us some great music. You get points for that.

Why did the baby boomer store owner run out of chocolate?
He sold out and blamed it on his grandchildren.

50% of Canadians have a university education so that would suggest it isn't that expensive. Also, it is cheaper now in current dollars than it was in the 60s and 70s (and many, many more people are attending)

Kids today think they are first to have things to worry about. In the 70s, everyone was certain that the population explosion would result in famine, the end of progress, and billions of deaths - and in a matter of a decade.

At one point in the 70s, a new mortgage was over 20% - try that on for size.

But those issues were nothing compared to the constant - and at times, very immediate - threat of global thermo-nuclear war.

But all that is fine, because we had it much better than the generations before us that faced two world wars and the depression - now they had something to worry about!