2013-2014 Season

[djsFlames]

I like JobHopper's backbone.

Just not where he's coming from. The "patch the ship with vets" approach didn't work for us for many years of trying. It's time to fully commit to this rebuild, and the current ownership has only now finally come on board. We have to see this thing through (even through the pretty low lows we've seen lately) in order for us to become better than a 9th place finisher with aging vets and having to endure people around the league calling us old and slow. I'm frustrated by the results lately, but I was even more so with the previous mentality this team and ownership had going prior.

We're on the right path, as wrong as it feels now. The most key thing is patience. Can't make Sutter-esque knee jerk moves every time we hit a rough patch. Rebuilds suck. We have to deal with that now that it's our reality.

Anyways, keep up the fight if that's what you feel. A little controversy around here never hurts (only the egos of the old timers that resort to "I've been a season ticket holder for.." pathetic drivel.) I mean, that's the most pathetic elitist sounding comeback you can possibly go with. So yeah, have at 'er.

MOD edit: Insult removed.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by JobHopper

I don't think any fan should be satisfied with a 5 year playoff draught.

You really expect us to make the playoffs every year? We're rebuilding now, deal with it.

[Robbob]

In the grand scheme of things this rebuild hasn't been that bad. I mentioned in another thread that this stretch of games leading to the Olympic break will be the hardest stretch for the fans this year. There was a month or so of hockey last year when we shipped everyone off but it really didn't drag because most fans got the rebuild they were calling for.

This year was expected to be a really rough ride. At least the season is broken up with the Olympics which will take everyone's mind off the rebuild. After the Olympics we jump right into some exciting things (trade deadline, call ups, signing college players, jockeying for draft position, GM candidate discussions, etc.). The next season I think may worse as there really isn't anything to break up the suckage.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by JobHopper

You know you have nothing left to say when you bring out the ole "I've been a season ticket holder since".

Many people are, what's your point?

Maybe stick to the discussion at hand rather than just accuse others of trolling and BS.

Perhaps the truth huts a little to much.

You aren't worth the time or effort. Go cheer for a winner you whiner!

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Not every team is the Oilers. They didn't set the default for all rebuilds. They were completely and utterly incompetent in their approach and methods and that's why it's taken (and is still taking) them this long.

Sure. Their incompetence was in doing nothing but sucking on purpose for 3-4 years and expecting a few high draft picks to magically flip a switch to turn the entire organization. It doesn't work.

Since the flames are embracing the same starting point as the oilers did, I hope they don't repeat the same mistake. But I am not saying they will.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Robbob

The next season I think may worse as there really isn't anything to break up the suckage.

Next year you will have the excitement of some of the young guys, potential UFAs, and overall team turnaround.

I think part of the reason it is dragging now is that the team is playing bad, and it is still a mostly veteran laden squad. Monahan was exciting at the start of the year, and Colborne, Backlund, and Byron have provided some excitement throughout but for the most part it has been the vets on the Flames roster.

I think the previous poster that said this season is still more of a tear down than a rebuild was pretty accurate.

[Gord Wappel]

Look what you started Lanny9.
I agree with you but it won't happen because - as you can see here - not enough people have bought into a proper rebuild - including Burke. Also the owners if you can trust here-say comments about having told Feaster to make playoffs this year.
Sorry for interrupting all the petty fighting comments from the Sun readers.
I just wanted to say:
Since inception of the Calgary Flames the highest they have ever drafted is 6th.
Think about the mathematical odds of that.
... like rolling one die 34 times and never rolling a one.

[Phil Russell]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

It's time to start being realistic.

The only reason we are as good as we are right now is because our Vet core is carrying the mail for us. We have one of the worst collections of young NHLers in the league which will need to be continually supplanted by Vets if you hope to maintain even the same results as this year.

As of right now, 2 of our top 11 scorers are under 25. Yuck.

I for one would not be satisfied if Burke decided to keep guys like Stajan, Stempniak, Cammalleri on the roster either, to attempt to just maintain our current level of play.

We're bad. Really bad and it might be another 2 years before we even get back to our current level of play.

Speculating that this year may be the low point in the rebuild is no more unrealistic than speculating that it might take 4 or 5 or more seasons before we start to compete. Hopeful maybe, but not unrealistic and I prefer to be hopeful during year one of a long overdue rebuild. I don't see this level of suck as sustainable under a Burke controlled team.

[JobHopper]

Originally Posted by Leondros

A majority? Are you conducting polls city wide or something?

If you don't like the games, don't go. My family has been season ticket holders since the Saddledome opened in 1983 and I can tell you I havn't seen more buzz at season ticket holder events than this year about the prospects this team is collecting. Murray Edwards and Co. are doing a great job staying out of hockey operations way.

Time to start thinking about getting different owners? That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Your parents must be cousins.

Typical little person, nothing other to say than personal attacks and assumptions against a person's family.

Fans like yourself who like to brag and tell everyone about how you're season ticket holders are the real problem. Probably complain the loudest as well when fans like myself come out to games and actually cheer for the Flames and make a little noise.

If the Flames don't make the playoffs for another 10 years you'll still be bragging how you've been a season ticket holder since 1983.

Good on you Sir.

[JobHopper]

Originally Posted by Flacker

You aren't worth the time or effort. Go cheer for a winner you whiner!

Don't let the door hit you on the way out .

Are you Ken King?

[EYE_Overstand]

Job Hopper is a bad poster. Trading for bieska and Hall and Eberle ? NHL14 doesn't quite work in the real world of sports

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think the Flames will be a better team when we trade away the vets who don't care.

Yep i think so too. Just look at the beginning of the season when we were missing some of the veterans and playing the guys. They worked harder then some of the vets came back and the game just went down. Flames might as well cleaned house with the veteran. Need to get rid of Galliardi, David Jones, Cammalleri(because he is the only one who can get us some decent return), Stempniak, Butler and Smith. I am pretty happy with our D Gio, Wideman, Russell, Brodie and even Smid. I don't mind O'Brien as 6th or 7th D.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Sure. Their incompetence was in doing nothing but sucking on purpose for 3-4 years and expecting a few high draft picks to magically flip a switch to turn the entire organization. It doesn't work.

Since the flames are embracing the same starting point as the oilers did, I hope they don't repeat the same mistake. But I am not saying they will.

Also, the Oilers managed to pick some meh "top" players over those years (partly due to not so great draft years). Light, fragile forwards that are defensively subpar. But they could've easily picked others and would be in a far better place right now. Their drafting strategy in picking for top 6 talent/finesse over every other aspect was their downfall and has kept them in the gutter. Then they persisted to go in with the exact same mindset year after year, instead of addressing other things like size, grit, two-way play, and most importantly, defense, which is what's slowed down their rebuild to a crawl. Didn't address areas of real need, just took the most enticing purely offensive player available every time regardless of stature and other qualities/intangibles.

RNH Eberle and Hall (+Yaks, Gagner) aren't bad players at all, but they don't exactly fit different bills, and they're all pretty fragile.

I think it goes to show that WHO we draft will be vital to the success and speed of our rebuild. But obviously with Burke at the helm, I think our approach will be vastly different to the Oil.

[Poe969]

The real problem is vapour lock.

[Ozy_Flame]

Just want to say that in Iginla's absence, Mikael Backlund has been out in the community and giving his time to great causes. He was with Special Olympics Calgary tonight playing floor hockey and getting to meet and great all the great people involved with that organization. He's very active on Twitter and a lot of his content is for good causes (e.g. Kids Cancer Research). He's very approachable and great with kids too. Just want to give him props for being active in the community, even if the team doesn't have alot for us to cheer about these days.

[irrevocable]

Originally Posted by EYE_Overstand

Job Hopper is a bad poster. Trading for bieska and Hall and Eberle ? NHL14 doesn't quite work in the real world of sports

That made me pee a little, hahahaha. Can someone show me where he went full scumbag (canuck/oiler) on us? Too funny.