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Old 01-05-2014, 09:08 AM   #81
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Hartley has done all he can and with Burke bringing in the likes of Kevin Westgarth how can you blame Hartley for losing.

Come on Brian ...lets bring in some more washed up goons who cant skate to help this team win.

stop the g d coaching carousel
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:31 AM   #82
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If Burke goes with Poulin or Loiselle, look to an ex Toronto alumni to get consideration. Not Ron Wilson, but what about Tim Hunter? Cut his teeth as an assistant and might be ready to make the jump. Instant fan favorite and would mesh with the style Burke wants the team to play.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:33 AM   #83
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Obviously whoever the GM will be should be able to choose the coach. I do hope Hartley gets to start the season next year as coach. He seems like a great guy and this far has the flames playing a more entertaining style than I thought they would have. Flames have an awful roster and until that is imported no coach is turning this team around
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:33 AM   #84
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:34 AM   #85
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Not long ago people were singing the praises of Brent Sutter as someone failing here but proven as good with youth. Too soon?

Not sure the two are remotely similar situations.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:28 PM   #87
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While i do agree with a lot of the things you wrote you are also leaving out an important piece..... last year. That is certainly part of the grade process. He was brought in to get every last drop out of the veterans and failed miserably. If not for 2 fluke goals, that should never happen in the NHL, the flames would have finished 3rd to last. So if he can't teach a veteran team, and the new GM does not think he can teach a young team, then what's the point?

Like i said in another post the next 20 games or so are going to be big for Hartely. Right now the Flames and Edmonton are playing the worst hockey in the NHL. Even Buffalo in their last 10 have gotten going at 5-3-2. If flames get 3 wins in the next 20 to go along with what they have done in the last 10 its going to be hard for him to retain a job for next year.
Yeah. I covered that in a previous post though, saying I think Hartley is more suited to this young rebuilding team than to a veteran team.

My thinking is just like Textcritic's right now. I think Hartley is close to perfect with this incarnation of the team. No rush to get rid of him. If the new GM wants to reassess in three years or so as the team is older and starting to compete at a different level, then I think that's the way to go. I could see the team outgrowing Hartley later, as we saw how he did last year, and that can coincide with the GM wanting to bring in a new guy. But for now, I think Hartley is doing a great job.
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