Twins (or even just one kid) - Not Happy/Ruining your Family

[mattcoco35]

As the parent of twin boys, after already having a single boy, the fact of the matter is this:

They will arrive and they do deserve every ounce of love and affection you can give them. You will not be the first and not the last so just deal with it. One day you'll be sitting on the couch and they'll be taking to you about hockey and that's what really matters! Oh and they can fetch beers then too!

[CalgaryFan1988]

My wife and I don't have kids yet, but it really makes me angry when people complain about having children. I know it's human nature to never be happy with what you have for some people, but.....

We want kids, but we can't right now for health reasons. We can't adopt, we can't have a surrogate and can't the old fashioned way.

We would gladly switch places with any whiney, unappreciative parents.

[polak]

Sorry that you're in that situation but when it comes to things like accidental pregnancies, just cause you want something, doesn't mean everyone else should want it too.

[Table 5]

Polak why are you even in this thread? You're like 21. Go hump some tramps at the club, enjoy your youth, and come back in 10 years.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by polak

Sorry that you're in that situation but when it comes to things like accidental pregnancies, just cause you want something, doesn't mean everyone else should want it too.

I'm talking about people who plan a pregnancy and then complain about their kids, like in the OP.

Obviously there are exceptions to everything.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Polak why are you even in this thread? You're like 21. Go hump some tramps at the club, enjoy your youth, and come back in 10 years.

24 in two months

My tamp days were wasted on a stupid 5 year relationship. This is my way of coming to grips with that.

Let me therapize myself!!!

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by polak

As someone who had that sort of faith in their parents as a kid and just recently had it shattered and torn to pieces, just know that if you fail your kids, you will literally never be able to rebuild that sort of relationship. I still love my parents and have a decent relationship with them, but after what they put me through a couple years ago when their problems culminated, I'll never be able to look at them the same.

ooooo - details?

[mykalberta]

I think everyone in the world should choose to be child free. It would do wonders to solve alot of the worlds problems in about 90 years or so.

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by return to the red

When wifey was pregnant I went through a little bit of a crisis. No more beers with the boys, no more random golf games, etc...whatever shall I do?

Little guy is now 1 month old and it really doesn't matter to me that I haven't done any of those things for a month. In fact, I actually cancelled my golf tonight to go home and spend time with the little guy because if I've learned anything this first month it's that time flies and they really do grow up quick.

Wow complete opposite for me. I have been playing more golf since I had the baby. My damn sister in-law hogs the baby every time we see them so all that is left for me to play golf with the brother in-law.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by fundmark19

Wow complete opposite for me. I have been playing more golf since I had the baby. My damn sister in-law hogs the baby every time we see them so all that is left for me to play golf with the brother in-law.

And in the back of her mind she is tallying all those babysitting minutes to redeem when she has kids later on.

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Nufy

And in the back of her mind she is tallying all those babysitting minutes to redeem when she has kids later on.

She has 3 already I like to think I still have a credit balance left. I did how ever have to take them to the park upon returning from golf.

My problem so far is that I want to take the baby everywhere with me. Go for a beer after work, why not I will get the wife to bring the baby and we will go to Boston Pizza. Weekly guys night, I will bring the baby and we will switch to Brewsters instead of OJ's. Want to go play video games at Kunkstyles house, I take my little good luck charm with me.

[Galakanokis]

Have kids don't have I don't care either way. But if you decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is and how free you are to do whatever you want. I don't care about Hawaii or Mexico. I'll take the big hug and kiss every morning and evening over a bloody vacation 10 times out of 10. That's my choice.

I want to take my kids to the park and baseball and dance class and hockey, soccer etc etc etc. I get far more joy out of watching them grow and learn than anything I could ever do. I'm proud of my kids and what they have accomplished and that gives me a sense of accomplishment. I learned a long time ago that I'm very insignificant in the grand scheme of things but to those kids I'm everything. Being someone's Superman is far far greater than sipping a girly drink on a sandy beach some where.

Again, my choices and my opinions. My best friend and his wife have decided not to have kids as they are afraid of losing their life style. Good enough, I respect that. It has no impact on my life except I can't make all the outings. No biggie. I still play hockey, the wife soccer. Still play ball and get together for football games and golf. Life has changed a lot but I still do the things I used to do sans kids just less frequently. Plus, I feel it makes the times I do get out a little better anyways.

If you do decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is with your precious dog either. How life is so much better with a dog. Screw you and your dog. You know what that dog is? A substitute for a kid you pretentious prick.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Have kids don't have I don't care either way. But if you decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is and how free you are to do whatever you want. I don't care about Hawaii or Mexico. I'll take the big hug and kiss every morning and evening over a bloody vacation 10 times out of 10. That's my choice.

I want to take my kids to the park and baseball and dance class and hockey, soccer etc etc etc. I get far more joy out of watching them grow and learn than anything I could ever do. I'm proud of my kids and what they have accomplished and that gives me a sense of accomplishment. I learned a long time ago that I'm very insignificant in the grand scheme of things but to those kids I'm everything. Being someone's Superman is far far greater than sipping a girly drink on a sandy beach some where.

Again, my choices and my opinions. My best friend and his wife have decided not to have kids as they are afraid of losing their life style. Good enough, I respect that. It has no impact on my life except I can't make all the outings. No biggie. I still play hockey, the wife soccer. Still play ball and get together for football games and golf. Life has changed a lot but I still do the things I used to do sans kids just less frequently. Plus, I feel it makes the times I do get out a little better anyways.

If you do decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is with your precious dog either. How life is so much better with a dog. Screw you and your dog. You know what that dog is? A substitute for a kid you pretentious prick.

I often wonder who you guys hang out with. I have never had any of my single and/or childless friends/coworkers/etc... brag about all the things they can do that I can't.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

I want to take my kids to the park and baseball and dance class and hockey, soccer etc etc etc. I get far more joy out of watching them grow and learn than anything I could ever do. I'm proud of my kids and what they have accomplished and that gives me a sense of accomplishment. I learned a long time ago that I'm very insignificant in the grand scheme of things but to those kids I'm everything. Being someone's Superman is far far greater than sipping a girly drink on a sandy beach some where.

Because I think it is topical.

This (from yesterday) made
https://vine.co/v/hJvvPeIMQKg

This (from 2 years ago)

NSFW!

entirely worth it.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by FlamingLonghorn

I often wonder who you guys hang out with. I have never had any of my single and/or childless friends/coworkers/etc... brag about all the things they can do that I can't.

Kind of makes me wonder, too. I have a lot of friends, and we all have a lot of different lifestyles. My wife and I have chosen not to have kids, and that means certain things. Several of my friends have chosen to have kids, with all that entails. When we talk about trips or things, our friends listen and seem to enjoy the stories. When our friends talk about things with their kids, my wife and I listen and enjoy the stories....kinda like one would expect friends to do. We all realize, as adults, that we have made different choices in life, and we choose to remain friends and enjoy each other's lives for what they are.

With the anger and hostility that one fellow expresses to folks, I'm not too surprised he doesn't seem to have many 'good' friends.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Have kids don't have I don't care either way. But if you decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is and how free you are to do whatever you want. I don't care about Hawaii or Mexico. I'll take the big hug and kiss every morning and evening over a bloody vacation 10 times out of 10. That's my choice.

I want to take my kids to the park and baseball and dance class and hockey, soccer etc etc etc. I get far more joy out of watching them grow and learn than anything I could ever do. I'm proud of my kids and what they have accomplished and that gives me a sense of accomplishment. I learned a long time ago that I'm very insignificant in the grand scheme of things but to those kids I'm everything. Being someone's Superman is far far greater than sipping a girly drink on a sandy beach some where.

Well put I remember Pinball Clemons did a "motiviational" speech at my work a number of years ago when he coached the Argos. He said he won the Grey Cup three times as a player, but it paled in comparison to winning it once as a coach because he felt like he won it 40 times -- one for each of his players. For me, I think being a parent is the same way.

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

If you do decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is with your precious dog either. How life is so much better with a dog. Screw you and your dog. You know what that dog is? A substitute for a kid you pretentious prick.

LOL -- a bit extreme but I get it (a lot of my colleagues who are married but don't have kids do have dogs/pets). And no, I don't want to see a photo of him/her on your cell phone

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

My wife and I don't have kids yet, but it really makes me angry when people complain about having children. I know it's human nature to never be happy with what you have for some people, but.....

We want kids, but we can't right now for health reasons. We can't adopt, we can't have a surrogate and can't the old fashioned way.

We would gladly switch places with any whiney, unappreciative parents.

This is a great point and I'm glad you made it. Without going into details, I was completely ignorant of how prevalent infertility is. It truly is a blessing to have a kid, especially a happy, healthy one.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by polak

I don't see how anyone could say not having kids it selfish? Who are you slighting?

The life that literally doesn't exist yet?

It's selfish because it's our kids who are going to be paying for our CPP, who else is going to do it? If people stop having kids that whole ponzi CPP is fk'd, and MacD's will be hiring seniors to clean the crap off tables.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

Have kids don't have I don't care either way. But if you decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is and how free you are to do whatever you want. I don't care about Hawaii or Mexico. I'll take the big hug and kiss every morning and evening over a bloody vacation 10 times out of 10. That's my choice.

I want to take my kids to the park and baseball and dance class and hockey, soccer etc etc etc. I get far more joy out of watching them grow and learn than anything I could ever do. I'm proud of my kids and what they have accomplished and that gives me a sense of accomplishment. I learned a long time ago that I'm very insignificant in the grand scheme of things but to those kids I'm everything. Being someone's Superman is far far greater than sipping a girly drink on a sandy beach some where.

Again, my choices and my opinions. My best friend and his wife have decided not to have kids as they are afraid of losing their life style. Good enough, I respect that. It has no impact on my life except I can't make all the outings. No biggie. I still play hockey, the wife soccer. Still play ball and get together for football games and golf. Life has changed a lot but I still do the things I used to do sans kids just less frequently. Plus, I feel it makes the times I do get out a little better anyways.

If you do decide to not have kids don't tell me how great your life is with your precious dog either. How life is so much better with a dog. Screw you and your dog. You know what that dog is? A substitute for a kid you pretentious prick.

Well, here's a gripe with your side of things (and in acknowledgement of fotze's post)... but maybe it's not specifically YOU who does it - just in general:

I think baby and kid pictures that nobody cares about are more obnoxiously shoved down our throats way more than a couple on vacation does. Facebook, especially. Every single parent thinks that their kid is the cutest, and for whatever reason, the whole world needs to know. I don't care that your kid is playing with his toys and he's got a meatball stuck to his eyebrow, I really don't. Or, showing pics because it's cute that your kid is sitting in the tub with his willy hanging out playing with a rubber ducky.... I sit on the toilet a couple times a day, why is that not okay to show?

Honestly, nobody cares about other people's children. Especially the way they're being blackmailed and paraded across social media today. That's why they're... YOUR children, so you can care about them and the rest of us don't have to.

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think baby and kid pictures that nobody cares about are more obnoxiously shoved down our throats way more than a couple on vacation does. Facebook, especially. Every single parent thinks that their kid is the cutest, and for whatever reason, the whole world needs to know.

Well for starters my kid is the cutest it is common knowledge. I also don't like the spam that some of my facebook friends give with their children. I decided to use technology to my advantage and post all my baby photos on Apples photostream. That way every time I take a photo it is automatically uploaded saving myself time and only the people who want to look at the photos are subscribed and the 300 people I never talk to on facebook don't suicide because they don't have the cutest kid in the world like I do.