List of key RFAs left (likely to re-sign with their teams) UPDATED SEP 14

[Poe969]

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

[Enoch Root]

But if you make an offer whereby the compensation is 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd, St Louis matches.

The only chance you have is to overpay to the tune of 4 firsts to give St Louis something to think about.

And there is no way I would give up 4 firsts when we are talking lottery picks

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

I would consider it yes. I'm not going to dump on those guys because I think they will be very good players for us, but they are still unknown. It remains to be seen whether or not either of them will translate to the NHL as well as we hope. Petro is already an elite defender and hasn't even hit his prime.

Probably not a good trade for a team in the position that we are in, and I am more driving this just for discussions sake, but people on here have already flip flopped on the Kessel trade in that it was completely lambasted when we first heard of it. Now everyone is "well we'll see if Seguin can develop into that player" now 3 years into his pro career. And Hamilton may end up being decent, but he was outplayed by an undersized, undrafted prospect last year. And Petro helps a team infinitely more than a player like Kessel.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

I'd make that trade if I were Brian Burke.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I'd make that trade if I were Brian Burke.

You'd throw in your top defender too (who is that?) if you were Kevin Lowe. Just as long as you maintain your First Overall Draft Pick championship banner all is well.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by MattyC

You'd throw in your top defender too (who is that?) if you were Kevin Lowe. Just as long as you maintain your First Overall Draft Pick championship banner all is well.

Not sure where you are going with that.

Pietrangelo would make the Flames better today and likely remain the best player in the deal down the road as well.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Not sure where you are going with that.

Pietrangelo would make the Flames better today and likely remain the best player in the deal down the road as well.

My bad. Thought it was a Burke pot shot and was just getting the trash talk flowing!

[Canada 02]

depending on the source, the Blues and Pietrangelo are as much as $1M apart. The Blues in the $6M range, and Alex at $7M

I would guess the Blues are using Myers ($5.5M) and Karlsson ($6.5M) as comparables, slotting Pietrangelo in the middle, and Don Meehan using Drew Doughty as the $7M comp

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

I wouldn't. Monahan is simply too valuable based on the Flames needs. That Baertschi guy is pretty good too and my expectations for both of them are very high. Even if the Flames landed McDavid, I would rather keep Monahan (and Sven) than trade them for Petriangelo. Likewise, I wouldn't want to give the Blues any of our future 1st rounders either.

The opportunity to acquire Ekblad isn't very far out of our grasp and there are a number of other ways that the Flames can try to acquire a top line Dman over the next few years of this team's rebuild.

I would certainly consider the offersheet to Franson or simply propose a trade to the Leafs to take Liles and their first rounder off their hands for a bag of pucks... or Butler.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

I'd consider trading Brodie+ for Pietrangelo, but I think Monahan & Baertschi are too valuable to the organisation, despite being unknown quantities.

Unfortunately I don't think we have the necessary pieces required to pry Pietro away from the Blues.

Also, I dare say $7 million is a bit steep for a purely offensive defenceman. I'd want a Weber or a Chara for that kind of money; guys who bring more to the table than just offence.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

I'd consider trading Brodie+ for Pietrangelo, but I think Monahan & Baertschi are too valuable to the organisation, despite being unknown quantities.

Unfortunately I don't think we have the necessary pieces required to pry Pietro away from the Blues.

Also, I dare say $7 million is a bit steep for a purely offensive defenceman. I'd want a Weber or a Chara for that kind of money; guys who bring more to the table than just offence.

Good thing Pietro is not a purely offensive defenceman then.

He is a very good defensive defenceman as well.

[clintb]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Also, I dare say $7 million is a bit steep for a purely offensive defenceman. I'd want a Weber or a Chara for that kind of money; guys who bring more to the table than just offence.

There's no way $7m is good value... he has such limited ability to cover and play strong D (but it is nice to have him on the offensive stint)

[Coach]

Not that I think Petro is worth 7 mil (he's close though), but some in here are severely underrating the defensive aspect of his game. Just because the guy puts up good numbers does not make him a one-trick pony.

[bubbsy]

i'd rather just hand franson 3.2 mill a year and give the leafs the compensatory 2nd round pick, than giving up the kind of assets it would take to get a guy like petro.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i'd rather just hand franson 3.2 mill a year and give the leafs the compensatory 2nd round pick, than giving up the kind of assets it would take to get a guy like petro.

Exactly. Even if the Leafs end up matching that offer it then puts them in the situation where they are over the cap and need to dump salary. At that point the Flames can show up with all our cap space and offer a deal.

I do think that another team (not in a rebuild) should be going after the Petro offer sheet. Heck, if the Bruins or some other cup contender had the room it would totally be worth it as they would likely be contending for the cup most of the next 4 years. The problem is that none of those teams have the cap space to make a $7M offersheet.

Aside from the Blues, the only other playoff team that has that kind of cap space is the Senators. The Avalanche could try to make that offersheet with the hopes that it turns them into a playoff team. Realistically thought I think Petro and the Blues are stuck with each other unless a blockbuster trade comes up.

[bubbsy]

the oilers would be smart to try the offersheet or mega trade offer route.

they have too many small but high skill forwards, which may be enough to base a package around (eberle/gagner/yakupov/hopkins), as well as a number of decent defensive prospects they could part with.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i'd rather just hand franson 3.2 mill a year and give the leafs the compensatory 2nd round pick, than giving up the kind of assets it would take to get a guy like petro.

Yeah I agree, I don't want to see the types of necessary assets unloaded for Petro, but I'd also rather wait and see with our own young guys than hand a spot to Franson too. The only way I wan't roster players coming into this organization now is if they are significant upgrades on what we have and potential/already young star players. If theyre not elite talents, lets just give the kids a shot.

It seems like the Blues are going to keep him regardless so it's kind of moot anyways.

[clintb]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Well would you give up Monohan and Baertschi for Petriangelo?

No way

[clintb]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i'd rather just hand franson 3.2 mill a year and give the leafs the compensatory 2nd round pick, than giving up the kind of assets it would take to get a guy like petro.

Yes, that would give us TONS of options going foward vs giving up some commited prospects

[Loyal and True]

updated with Pietrangelo signing