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Old 07-29-2013, 01:34 PM   #81
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Unless you like ice fishing, isn't a community lake only useable 3-4 months out of the year? I suppose there could be skating too.
Skating, cross-country skiing, tobogganing, ice fishing and hockey. Some of these are really large parks and it's nice to spend time there for no other reason than it's a pleasant place to be. They're definitely year-round facilities.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:34 PM   #82
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I'd like to see a list of the worst communities.
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I'd like to see a list of the worst communities.
Kick it off, dude. That should take some of the heat off me in this thread.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:38 PM   #84
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Skating, cross-country skiing, tobogganing, ice fishing and hockey. Some of these are really large parks and it's nice to spend time there for no other reason than it's a pleasant place to be. They're definitely year-round facilities.
The bolded have nothing to do with a lake, and really the other ones can be done at places besides a lake (skating and hockey presumably at the outdoor rink most communities have...). In fact ice fishing is much better in the open than a community lake. So if your community doesn't have a lake, you can still do pretty much all of the things mentioned.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:39 PM   #86
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Kick it off, dude. That should take some of the heat off me in this thread.
Objectively speaking, you kind of brought that one on yourself.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:42 PM   #87
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Isn't this a major con for lake communities. It costs more to buy into a lake community so if you arent' going to use the lake you are paying interest on something that you don't need.

I think that when I was looking it was about 25k more for similar houses in lake comunities. In the end I chose lower cost for a similar house and proximity to fish creek over a lake. 25k at 3.5% is $875 per year plus your $250 lake fee is up to 1125 for the cost of a lake.

So taking two identical communities one with a lake and one without you have to get $1125 per year of more value out of the lake for that community to be better. So having a lake is not OBJECTIVELY better than not having one.
Lake communities are like new cars. You pay more for benefits that seem real, but end up not using them much, making the extra money wasted.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:49 PM   #88
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If all else was equal, having a lake would be better than not having a lake.

However, the option isn't lake or no lake. The options are: lake, or whatever else would fill up that space (more density, shops, other park space, etc.) Many people value the other things that could be there over the lake.

Land is finite.
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I'd like to see a list of the worst communities.
Panorama. The Forest Lawn of the NW!... hehe
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It's fun watching the same "discussion" unfold as it did last year. Deja vu all over again?
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The one right by the NW dump site, Beacon Hills.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:58 PM   #92
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Know what's really crazy? Lake Midnapore, McKenzie Lake, Lake Sundance, Lake Chaparral, Auburn Bay Lake, Coral Springs Lake, even Eagle Ridge, North Glenmore Park, and Bayview (Glenmore Reservoir, now there's a lake!) aren't even on the list. When McKenzie Lake isn't on, and McKenzie Towne IS, that says something.

Maybe the list is wrong?
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hahaha. Bowness was #3 on that list?!
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Anyway, here's a visual representation of the worst communities:

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Kick it off, dude. That should take some of the heat off me in this thread.
Anywhere near a landfill. And Cedarbae.
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Anywhere near a landfill. And Cedarbae.
How about on top of a landfill? Citadel!
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Anywhere, here's a visual representation of the worst communities:

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You don't own a house in Renfrew you'd be willing to trade me for a similar house in the much better SE neighbourhood of Dover by any chance do you?

I don't live in the NE, but its silly to write of a whole quadrant, imo.
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Anywhere near a landfill. And Cedarbae.
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How about on top of a landfill? Citadel!
Why? Your grass should be greener and the free underground methane gas allows you to heat your home for free.
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This list continues to be the most ridiculous one re: neighbourhood desirability.

For one, you'd expect based on the criteria that neighbourhoods with similar characteristics would be somewhat clustered on this list. Instead you have one neighbourhood that ranks high, and others very similar in most respects showing up nowhere. For instance Beltline and Lower Mount Royal - separated by 17th Avenue have almost identical characteristics. One ranks #9, one doesn't rank at all.

The "most pedestrian friendly" communities list is even more silly. Valley Ridge 5th - a community whereby you can walk to almost nothing.
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