Flames Sign Chris Breen

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by byronkentgraham

I highly doubt Breen or Cundari will be #7 over Smith. I'd rather have Breen and Cundari logging huge minutes in the AHL than sitting in the press box.

Smith is a glorified AHLer, it wouldn't be a huge feat to push him back to the AHL. Plus if I were the GM I would much rather expose Smith to waivers.

[ricardodw]

Its all about the minutes...


Wideman 25 minutes -- has done before and minutes get inflated by PP time
Gio 23 minutes - that is what has been set as his top minutes for the last 3 years.
Brodie 23 - only a guess if he can handle more

that takes up 71 minutes out of 120 and leaves 49 minutes for 4-6

SOB - 16-20 in his 483 NHL games +18 career... he will get as much ice time as he can handle. Will likely be the #1 PK d-man. This will be the smallest team he has played for and Hartley will have him out as much as he can handle.

Russell - 14-16 in his 365 NHL games -10 career... not going to panic if he gets put out against top lines. He is significantly more physical than Smith or Butler so will take away games and minutes from them.

Between Russell (16) and SOB (18) they will take 34 minutes of ice time ... There is no reason to expect that playing on this year's version of the Flames that their ice time will be cut back.


That leaves 15 minutes for the #6 guy..... Not going to be Breen on a regular basis. That is just too much of panic mode. The coaches don't have Bouwmeester to chew up an extra 5 minutes if the #6 guy needs to be sat.



Smith has played the 15 minute role and Butler has always played more than 15 Minutes going back to his lowest total of 16 minutes in 43 games as a rookie with Buffalo 6 years ago.

Cundari was an all-star at the AHL level.

Maybe I am missing something.... Was Breen dominating at the AHL level? He was ranked behind Piskula and Carson in getting called up.


some poster said that he was non-aggressive because he was so important that he had to stay out of the penalty box. His 3 year penalty total do not support this theory.

Cundari.... who was playing at a higher more important level in the AHL had basically twice the PIM over the last 3 AHL seasons.

I think that Breen is in the AHL unless SOB or Cundari get hurt .... He might get a 5-10 game call up.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Its all about the minutes...


Wideman 25 minutes -- has done before and minutes get inflated by PP time
Gio 23 minutes - that is what has been set as his top minutes for the last 3 years.
Brodie 23 - only a guess if he can handle more

that takes up 71 minutes out of 120 and leaves 49 minutes for 4-6

SOB - 16-20 in his 483 NHL games +18 career... he will get as much ice time as he can handle. Will likely be the #1 PK d-man. This will be the smallest team he has played for and Hartley will have him out as much as he can handle.

Russell - 14-16 in his 365 NHL games -10 career... not going to panic if he gets put out against top lines. He is significantly more physical than Smith or Butler so will take away games and minutes from them.

Between Russell (16) and SOB (18) they will take 34 minutes of ice time ... There is no reason to expect that playing on this year's version of the Flames that their ice time will be cut back.


That leaves 15 minutes for the #6 guy..... Not going to be Breen on a regular basis. That is just too much of panic mode. The coaches don't have Bouwmeester to chew up an extra 5 minutes if the #6 guy needs to be sat.



Smith has played the 15 minute role and Butler has always played more than 15 Minutes going back to his lowest total of 16 minutes in 43 games as a rookie with Buffalo 6 years ago.

Cundari was an all-star at the AHL level.

Maybe I am missing something.... Was Breen dominating at the AHL level? He was ranked behind Piskula and Carson in getting called up.


some poster said that he was non-aggressive because he was so important that he had to stay out of the penalty box. His 3 year penalty total do not support this theory.

Cundari.... who was playing at a higher more important level in the AHL had basically twice the PIM over the last 3 AHL seasons.

I think that Breen is in the AHL unless SOB or Cundari get hurt .... He might get a 5-10 game call up.

The first bolded part - Breen had a good season, followed by a bit of a down season where Piskula and Carson were called up ahead of him (though I think Carson in particular deserved his call-up). Breen last season I believe played the toughest minutes, and did fairly well, receiving high praise from the organization.

As for the 'non-aggressive' part - half true. Breen turned it up a bit the last couple of seasons, but in the interview he stated he had to pick his spots better so as to not be a liability for the Heat. He was an important piece on the Heat, and most of the guys he would end up fighting (or challenged by at least) were not key cogs to their respective teams for the most part.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Maybe I am missing something.... Was Breen dominating at the AHL level? He was ranked behind Piskula and Carson in getting called up.

some poster said that he was non-aggressive because he was so important that he had to stay out of the penalty box. His 3 year penalty total do not support this theory.

That was me, but I didn't say he was non-aggressive. He's completely aggressive - much more so than the past two seasons. You put a pinky toe in his goalie's blue paint and you're going to pay for it. You take a cheap shot at one of his teammates and he'll make you wish you didn't. He's not an overly huge, out-of-his-way type of hitter, but it probably feels like it when he does a normal check.

Trust me, Breen's aggressiveness is not an issue whatsoever. I fully expect him to start the season with the Heat, but I can't see him not playing his first NHL game next season.

[Prufrock]

Quick video of Breen on the signing. Nice 'stache.

[Stormchaser]

I been wondering for a while who the heck SOB is???

[AC]

Originally Posted by stormchaser

I been wondering for a while who the heck SOB is???

http://flames.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Hmm, which defenceman could it be?

Shane O'Brien.

[Stormchaser]

Originally Posted by AC

http://flames.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Hmm, which defenceman could it be?

Shane O'Brien.

Ah yes...the power of the internets! Glad you answered it anyways.....

[AC]

Plus he's a real son of a bitch.

[Stormchaser]

Ha! That's still going to be in my head no matter what.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

That was me, but I didn't say he was non-aggressive. He's completely aggressive - much more so than the past two seasons. You put a pinky toe in his goalie's blue paint and you're going to pay for it. You take a cheap shot at one of his teammates and he'll make you wish you didn't. He's not an overly huge, out-of-his-way type of hitter, but it probably feels like it when he does a normal check.

Trust me, Breen's aggressiveness is not an issue whatsoever. I fully expect him to start the season with the Heat, but I can't see him not playing his first NHL game next season.

I really hope he can find his way onto the Flames roster straight out of camp. I would much rather have Breen playing big and mean on the bottom pairing than SOB. Having said that, I am sure it is just a matter of time before the injury call ups give him a chance to come up and show us what he can do.

Mainly, I would really like to see Breen get some NHL seasoning now so that he isn't as green when it is Kanzig's turn to join the roster as a rookie.

At that point I expect great things from the giants. I don't even know what I would rather see, them both on the ice together crushing people or splitting them up so that one of them is always available to throw the opposition around.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Sure, why not:

this is nice and all but everytime i see green it just reminds me of Saskatchewan. Just say NO!!