"Flames GM Feaster Has Options Open Heading Into Off-Season" As per TSN

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Methinks you're making something out of nothing. He didn't say anything unprofessional or ignorant. He didn't start a childish pissing match.

Talk about being overdramatic.

I was likely being slightly over dramatic to highlight the point for sure. But yes, he does make ignorant and un-professional comments. Over a year ago he took direct shots at the Oilers organization (for no reason or benefit) and continues to passive agressively make comments about them. His ignorance is highlighted by his comments as they make him seem completely un-aware of his own situation, given our strategy over the past 4 years has proven to be no better than our friends up north. That lack of self awareness is exactly what ignorance is.

You are right, he didn't start a childish pissing match though, because even K Lowe was too smart to take the bait, and you can't have a pissing match with yourself.

[bluloc]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I was likely being slightly over dramatic to highlight the point for sure. But yes, he does make ignorant and un-professional comments. Over a year ago he took direct shots at the Oilers organization (for no reason or benefit) and continues to passive agressively make comments about them. His ignorance is highlighted by his comments as they make him seem completely un-aware of his own situation, given our strategy over the past 4 years has proven to be no better than our friends up north. That lack of self awareness is exactly what ignorance is.

You are right, he didn't start a childish pissing match though, because even K Lowe was too smart to take the bait, and you can't have a pissing match with yourself.

Lmao funny how you mentioned the word smart and Kevin Lowe in the same sentence. Thanks for the laugh.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

It just firms up the impression that the only point of pride, the only strategy of this franchise, is to be not as lousy as the Oilers. And that's pathetic. It's like Rutherford of the Hurricanes puffing up his chest and declaring - "hey, at least we're not as bad as those losers in Florida." Sorry, you're both losers. As are the Flames and Oilers.

Yes sadly or not, the best thing for the Flames would be the Oilers getting good again. That competition between the two franchises works on the positive and negative side of the ledger it appears.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by bluloc

Lmao funny how you mentioned the word smart and Kevin Lowe in the same sentence. Thanks for the laugh.

I agree, it is funny. But when you stop laughing, I guarantee you'll start crying when you realize that the comment implies that at the very least, in this specific scenario, K Lowe is actually smarter than our GM. Very, very scary thought.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Just so I have this straight, You're all upset he said this...



?

So he's saying he wants to be competitive right away, and you all get upset?


Wow.

Some are upset that he says anything....if Feaster actually went quiet the complaining around here would be just as loud lol.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Some are upset that he says anything....if Feaster actually went quiet the complaining around here would be just as loud lol.

I actually like it when Feaster talks, I find it good and in general he seems knowledgable. My biggest fear is that he actually talks a much better game than he can bring.

Exception being when he's starts spouting off about the Oilers. Makes him look like a dummy given he's currently managing a team trying to work it's self out of one of, if not the worst current roster position in the league.

[MoneyGuy]

I don't want to start a new thread, but have a question. How respected and connected to the Flames is Eric Francis? He was on Edmonton radio this afternoon and I am curious how respected he is in regard to the Flames.

[Enoch Root]

lol

(that is all)

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I don't want to start a new thread, but have a question. How respected and connected to the Flames is Eric Francis? He was on Edmonton radio this afternoon and I am curious how respected he is in regard to the Flames.

Why, what did he say?

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I don't want to start a new thread, but have a question. How respected and connected to the Flames is Eric Francis? He was on Edmonton radio this afternoon and I am curious how respected he is in regard to the Flames.

Not so respected, as has a habit of quoting anonymous sources and positioning speculation as fact.

Buuuut...he is occasionally proven right.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Why, what did he say?

He said the owners have told Feaster that the team must make the playoffs next season. Or else wasn't stated but that's what I infer from the comments. It sounds to me like his job may depend on it, but Francis didn't say that (while I was listening).

Francis said that you can pick one - rebuild or playoffs - but can't have both. Francis said that if the owners insist on being a playoff team then the rebuild will be significantly prolonged and could take years.

He also said that Kipper will almost 100% for sure not be back. He's retiring. His teammates know it (but I don't know if the fans do). He said Kipper wants to sit in Finland and fish for the rest of his life.

They talked about goalies, and Francis said it will likely be a competition between Joey McDonald, Romo and...I forget the other European goalie's name, but Francis said he's huge, about 6-5 or something. Francis didn't say it, but I inferred that he thinks there may be some potential there but perhaps it won't be a team strength next season.

That's all I heard. I was in my car. It ran on The Team 1260 about 1:30 today if anyone wants to listen to the recording on their website.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

He said the owners have told Feaster that the team must make the playoffs next season. Or else wasn't stated but that's what I infer from the comments. It sounds to me like his job may depend on it, but Francis didn't say that (while I was listening).

Francis said that you can pick one - rebuild or playoffs - but can't have both. Francis said that if the owners insist on being a playoff team then the rebuild will be significantly prolonged and could take years.

He also said that Kipper will almost 100% for sure not be back. He's retiring. His teammates know it (but I don't know if the fans do). He said Kipper wants to sit in Finland and fish for the rest of his life.

They talked about goalies, and Francis said it will likely be a competition between Joey McDonald, Romo and...I forget the other European goalie's name, but Francis said he's huge, about 6-5 or something. Francis didn't say it, but I inferred that he thinks there may be some potential there but perhaps it won't be a team strength next season.

That's all I heard. I was in my car. It ran on The Team 1260 about 1:30 today if anyone wants to listen to the recording on their website.

He's right on all counts except he is spinning the playoff comments out of context still. The mindset should always be about making the playoffs is what Feaster was getting at. As much as people want Feaster gone he won't likely be fired for not making the playoffs. He could be fired for a lack of activity to improve the roster for next season though.
Goalies name is Reto Berra and he is huge.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

He said the owners have told Feaster that the team must make the playoffs next season. Or else wasn't stated but that's what I infer from the comments. It sounds to me like his job may depend on it, but Francis didn't say that (while I was listening).

Francis said that you can pick one - rebuild or playoffs - but can't have both. Francis said that if the owners insist on being a playoff team then the rebuild will be significantly prolonged and could take years.

He also said that Kipper will almost 100% for sure not be back. He's retiring. His teammates know it (but I don't know if the fans do). He said Kipper wants to sit in Finland and fish for the rest of his life.

They talked about goalies, and Francis said it will likely be a competition between Joey McDonald, Romo and...I forget the other European goalie's name, but Francis said he's huge, about 6-5 or something. Francis didn't say it, but I inferred that he thinks there may be some potential there but perhaps it won't be a team strength next season.

That's all I heard. I was in my car. It ran on The Team 1260 about 1:30 today if anyone wants to listen to the recording on their website.

Ah thanks.

Feaster said the playoff thing himself after the deadline trades, he told the media that Murray Edwards told him after blowing it up, that they still expect the team to be in the playoffs next year, despite tearing it down.

Sounded more like a "just because we tore it down doesn't mean we expect to lose" type of a statement, and not a "get us in playoffs next year, no matter what it takes or else your toast" type of statement.

Flames are not going to sacrifice the future in order to get into the post season next year. They are rebuilding, and are now a "collector of young assets, and want to become young asset rich" according to Ken King.


The other European goalie he mentioned would be Reto Berra, brought over in the JBo trade, and the Flames have already signed him to an ELC for next season. He's a 26 year old Swiss goalie who is 6'4 and has played the last several years in the Swiss league, one of the top goalies there......I don't expect much from him, nor do many other fans I'd wager, but maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

[OzSome]

If Feaster decided to move up from #6, he would trade 2 first rounders, #6 + St.Louis first pick and not a roster or prospect like Baertschi or Gaudreau or even Arnold.

[FanIn80]

Feaster did not say that he was told to make the playoffs. He said that the mandate is "always" to make the playoffs, and the context of the comment was in regards to someone asking about if the organization was going to be expecting any results next year, or if pressure would be relaxed a bit in light of the rebuild.

He was directing his comment toward the players, and he even said that directly. He was saying that the organization wasn't going to allow the players to look at this as a "rebuild" and take nights off. He was telling the players that the organization still expects them to compete for a playoff spot, regardless of the circumstances.

Not once, in that particular interview, did Jay Feaster say that Murray Edwards told him he'd be fired if he didn't make the playoffs. That's Eric Francis pulling an "Eric Francis." In other words, what people actually say, what Eric Francis hears them say and what Eric Francis says they said are, quite often, completely different things.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Not once, in that particular interview, did Jay Feaster say that Murray Edwards told him he'd be fired if he didn't make the playoffs. That's Eric Francis pulling an "Eric Francis." In other words, what people actually say, what Eric Francis hears them say and what Eric Francis says they said are, quite often, completely different things.

If Francis is saying what he is saying based on inside information, why would it matter what Feaster said in any interview?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Ark2

If Francis is saying what he is saying based on inside information, why would it matter what Feaster said in any interview?

If it was based on "inside information", then it wouldn't matter at all what Feaster said in that interview.

I highly doubt Francis was basing his comments on inside info though.

[dammage79]

Especially since the way the Flames are handling the media these days I would be surprised if there was much "Insider" info floating around. Especially for a guy like Francis who does everything the Flames hate.

[Vinny01]

I think Feaster is just trying to be crystal clear that the Flames are not planning to take the same road the Oilers did to rebuild. He does not want to suck and tank to get good young players. The Flames are not going to be spending quality assets to bring in 30+ year olds. If they move their later firsts it will be to move up or take on players in their mid-20's like Simmonds, Stewart, Berglund etc.

I am not worried about the Flames ruining their rebuild by trading picks and prospects for older assets. I am excited to see what they do in the off-season we finally have some trading chips and cap space to make big moves.

[joe_mullen]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think Feaster is just trying to be crystal clear that the Flames are not planning to take the same road the Oilers did to rebuild. He does not want to suck and tank to get good young players. The Flames are not going to be spending quality assets to bring in 30+ year olds. If they move their later firsts it will be to move up or take on players in their mid-20's like Simmonds, Stewart, Berglund etc.

I am not worried about the Flames ruining their rebuild by trading picks and prospects for older assets. I am excited to see what they do in the off-season we finally have some trading chips and cap space to make big moves.

Feaster can talk all he wants about not tanking for the next few years, truth is, this team will be absolutely awful for the next few years. Due to his own incompetence, Feaster has ensured the rebuild will be a long process.