[GDT] Flames vs Predators - 6:00 - SNet-W

[tendulkar23]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

What a joke. Never a fan of not icing the best possible roster.

The draft lottery is still a joke. There has to be a different way. Maybe the last 5 seasons get taken into account, instead of your last season?

I think the best way to do it would be to give the bottom 5 teams a 10% chance each, then give the next 5 teams a 7% chance and the other 4 lottery teams receive a 3.75% chance. As long as last place has the best odds to win the lottery, teams will be tanking.

[t0rrent98]

Flames win 3-1 tonight, Carter Bancks with his first NHL goal... FLAMES WILL GO ON A 6 GAME WIN STREAK TO FINISH OFF THE SEASON AT 22-22-4. I BELIEVE!!!!!!!

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Excellent idea.

Every non-playoff team should have the same chance at the first overall pick.

Sounds OK on paper but when a 9th place team gets first pick over a truly terrible Florida type team it wold be unfair.

They should weight parts of the season, and where the team is at that point.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Sure just hand the Oilers another 1st overall why dontcha.

Just use the PingPong balls to determine every draft slot for non playoff teams. If you don't even have pick range certainty then there is little incentive to tank. Keep it a progressive lotto (so the worst teams have more pingpong balls in the hopper) but remove the range certainty. That would do it I think.

That or add more probability for teams that finish 6-14 so teams don't feel the need to start falling after the deadline for a higher lottery chance. It's pretty obvious here that the Flames covet a top 5 player in this draft by icing this lineup.

[PIMking]

Getting ready to leave in an hour to go to the game. I will be sitting at the end the flames shoot twice. I will bring my camera and will be wearing a QC jersey.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Wow, look at that forward lineup:

Pat Steinberg‏@Fan960Steinberg2m

#Flames lines tonight: Baertschi-Reinhart-Cervenka; Hudler-Horak-Aliu; Bancks-Byron-McGrattan; Hanowski-Street-Jones

One guy per line that will not be classified as a rookie next season?

[Loyal and True]

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg 26m So looks like Stempniak, Cammalleri, Backlund, Jackman, and Stajan will all sit this one out. #Flames

[PeteLFan]

The lottery system needs changing.

Every team should be drawn so there is no set position. Obviously the worse you do the more balls you get, buy right now this tank job by Colorado Nashville Carolina and Florida is very embarrassing.

Hopefully we are rewarded with the lottery win by the hockey gods for actually trying and not compromising the integrity of the game.

[djsFlames]

I can just see it now.. 2 goals for Babchuk. Butler +4. Bancks with hat trick in first game.

BOOM...10th.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by #-3

One guy per line that will not be classified as a rookie next season?

Horak is already not classified as a rookie.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Looks like the Flames lineup is in direct response to the Predators sad sack lineup. Am I the only person that kind of finds this truly bizarre that teams are trying to out suck each other like this? NHL needs to seriously look at this as while I'm firmly on the lose to win at the draft camp the fact that so many teams are tanking down the stretch is a little disturbing.

The Predators lineup is due to injuries though. As far as I'm aware they're not healthy scratching anyone. I believe all of Fisher, Wilson, Hornqvist, Bourque, Gaustad, and Yip are legitimately injured.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

Holy crap, was the big, bold text really necessary?

Probably. Flames fans are sounding like Oiler & Leafs fans of the past 5 years talking about how these meaningless wins are building confidence and winning attitudes that will carry over to next year.

[Imported_Aussie]

Originally Posted by $ven27

Anyone who says we're not tanking is out to lunch, you don't sit Stempniak, Cammalleri, Backlund, and Stajan to just "give the young guys a shot" especially when one of the guys sitting is arguably our best young guy this season.

Call it talent evaluation, they have seen enough of Backlund to know what he brings, and that post injury he has played well enough to get another contract. What they don't know is how well Reinhart will play with a more skilled winger, or how Bancks will play now he can be called up for NHL time

[JayP]

Originally Posted by opendoor

The Predators lineup is due to injuries though. As far as I'm aware they're not healthy scratching anyone. I believe all of Fisher, Wilson, Hornqvist, Bourque, Gaustad, and Yip are legitimately injured.

Injured is a relative term. Stajan was injured, became healthy enough to play and was immediately back in the line-up. That's not usually the case with eliminated teams - guys like that are usually just shut down for the year as a precaution (and to continue to lose). I'm sure a few of the Predators listed above fall into that category.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by icarus

We're still going to get a higher draft pick than we've had for a long time and I have confidence our scouting staff can get a top guy.

Well we picked up Baertschi with 13 and before that Phaneuf with 9... so not really. And I don't really have that confidence at all. Still Tod Button in charge? Yeah.

[Miniac]

Flames will win, the Predators are awful.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Every non-playoff team should have the same chance at the first overall pick.

I wouldn't go that far... you still want to promote parity so I would still give the worst teams the lotto odds advantage but they would lose draft range certainty... the bottom team would no longer be assured of picking 2nd at worst. Flat odds isn't ideal either... I could see flatter odds (where the Bottom 5 have equal odds, then the next group of 5 have smaller equal odds then the first group, and the remaining group (bubble teams) all have the same yet smaller odds. That way you still promote parity but make incremental differences less important.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by getbak

981 total NHL games played for the entire forward lineup tonight, and Hudler accounts for 449 of those.

And MCGratton another 231.

After that:
Jones - 111
Horak - 78
Cervenka - 36
Byron - 32
Bärtschi - 23
Reinhart - 9
Aliu - 5
Street - 4
Hanowski - 3
Bancks - 0

Paul Freaking Byron is in the top half of forwards in career games played.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

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[Alberta_Beef]

That is our lineup tonight? I have never been so embarrassed to be a Flames fan as I am right now. I won't be watching, no way am I going to support a team that doesn't even try to win.