[PGT] Abottsford Flames Crush the Wild 4-1!

[getbak]

Originally Posted by The Swedish Flame

Calgary Flames @NHLFlames 10m
"It was surreal. I didn't know how to react." - Cundari on his first #NHL goal

"Why didn't you jump around like an idiot and go sliding down the ice?" - Nail Yakupov

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

When people keep hoping for MacKinnon and Drouin and I can't help thinking of Alexadre Daigle. Superstar junior stats that didn't translate to the next level, so you never know who is going to be great (Jarome Iginla picked 11th). Just because they are hyped doesn't mean anything.

Scouting isn't what it was.

[krynski]

Originally Posted by SebC

That's pretty much the opposite of how I would do things. I want to maintain cap flexibility, maximize development, and draft high until the young core gets too good for that (or nears the end of their ELCs)... then you change gears, add some UFAs and take a run at the cup.

I prefer the long-term sustainability route. Good standings +good trades+ good development + good scouting = consistent cup contender, with developing replacing maturing talent

[Dion]

Originally Posted by The Swedish Flame

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by keenan87

To be honest, I am happy when the young guys score and have a very good game. However, I would rather the other team win a nail-biter for two reasons.

1) Honestly, when the pressure is on next season and teams start taking the Flames less lightly, we are going to lose a lot more games. This is definitely (historically) not a foreshadow of things to come next season.

We've been playing and beating teams in playoff races and have something to play for, you don't think that they don't realize that they need the points. Playoff teams and teams fighting for the playoffs have their own special intensity. so I don't buy your argument. I also don't believe that the Flames high level is anything but a combination of youthful enthusiasm and no pressure. We'll find out next year how they fare. But none of us have any clue about how they're going to react unless, and you can tell us, you're a professional scout or head coach.

Originally Posted by keenan87

2) Of course there are some great players in the system, however, we are still missing some top 6 players. I just feel if we landed a guy like Mackinnon or Drouin, we would be already half way through the rebuild. As of now, I still feel if we get a guy like Lindholm, we can still do really well, however, in the long run there really isn't an advantage to winning right now.

Granted and if we don't get one of them, then we move on, draft our three players in the first round and see how they develop,

This isn't a computer game. The players are playing for pride and positions for next year and invites to camp. GM's and coaches are not going to tell them to go out and lose. the players hopefully are not going to shrug their shoulders and play for the high draft pick that might cost them their job.

Originally Posted by keenan87

I am not less of a fan of you or anyone else, I just want this shorter season to be a little more painful and then I'll be back to bleeding red next season. For those saying the Oilers didn't do well, it's because they have top line talent but no depth. I think the Flames have depth but are missing top line talent and yes it does make a difference if we select Mackinnon over Monahen.

No but your getting annoying as hell.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

When people keep hoping for MacKinnon and Drouin and I can't help thinking of Alexadre Daigle. Superstar junior stats that didn't translate to the next level, so you never know who is going to be great (Jarome Iginla picked 11th). Just because they are hyped doesn't mean anything.

Where is Daigle now?

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by nik-

Scouting isn't what it was.

In Daigle's case, yes it was.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by nik-

Scouting isn't what it was.

And we won't make our first round pick dress like a nurse.

[StAlbertFlame]

The Wild remind me of how the Flames crapped the bed the last few years down the home stretch. The seemingly lack of effort is eerily familiar….and desperation doesn’t seem to matter.

Flames have a line-up that includes various amounts of NCAA, AHL, Waiver pick-ups and some Veterans, and they just shut down a team with the two biggest summer 2012 free agents.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by SebC

Stuff to think about:

- If we're not bad enough for a top pick, should we consider the "quick rebuild" strategy and go bite on some UFAs this summer?

- How come the Heat missed the AHL playoffs, but are on a win streak in the NHL?

consistency over a full season? that's what separates good players from the rest.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by bluck

Where is Daigle now?

Acting

[sergei_makarov]

Cundari looked great for a guy playing his first NHL game. Saw him go in a little deep on more than a few occasions probably looking for an opportunity to score leaving his partner alone, which the coaching staff will probably talk to him about though. Made a number of nice tape to tape outlet passes under pressure which is an important skill for a dman.

Backlund looked fantastic. He's going to turn into a very important player for these Flames. Solid defensively and has offensive talent.

[bluck]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Acting

I honestly don't know if you are being serious or not haha

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And we won't make our first round pick dress like a nurse.

If we draft Nurse do we make him dress like a Daigle?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Dagger

We're getting fooled again here. This is no different than the usual frantic push at the end where it seems "hey, we aren't that bad, one or two more pieces and we'll be in for sure." Only to have a rinse and repeat year after year. This team basically as is is brutal and needs to lose games now. We are not going to be a winning club next year.

They traded Jarome for crying out loud. Hardly "rinse and repeat".

[sergei_makarov]

Cundari is 5'9"... that's tiny and a little concerning. He is stocky but still very short for a dman.

[krynski]

Originally Posted by sergei_makarov

Cundari is 5'9"... that's tiny and a little concerning. He is stocky but still very short for a dman.

He's 195 lbs, he'll be fine.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

The Wild? Yeah, pretty weak.

Or maybe the oilers?

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

consistency over a full season? that's what separates good players from the rest.

And our glue *cough* TJ Brodie *cough* left the team when the lockout ended.

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by bluck

I honestly don't know if you are being serious or not haha

I am for sure. What I am trying to tell the "we should lose to get a better pick" crowd is you never know how these kids will work out. Daigle WAS the supposed superstar of his generation and basically never lived up to his billing, so there is nothing to say the next two superstars from the QMJHL will be any better (not saying they will be worse) but to suck and lose for the privilege of drafting them makes no sense to me.