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Ashasx · 03-31-2013, 02:03 PM

I think Drouin has the highest upside in this draft. The concern is that he's not a centre.

FlamesAddiction · 03-31-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think Drouin has the highest upside in this draft. The concern is that he's not a centre.

I don't think it really matters personally. Our main reason for getting a #1 centre is gone now.

I think this team just lacks a young forward superstar in general.

mrdonkey · 03-31-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't think it really matters personally. Our main reason for getting a #1 centre is gone now.

I think this team just lacks a young forward superstar in general.

Sven Baertschi might have something to say about that.

bubbsy · 03-31-2013, 02:09 PM

i think drouin is probably the highest skill and all, but wiht the flames finally getting their highest pick in franchise history and the well documented struggles for getting a #1 center for 2 decades now, i think they have to get someone like Mackinnon, Monahan, Barkov with this pick.

dammage79 · 03-31-2013, 02:12 PM

Just do not see Monohan as a better pick than the three other Centers the Flames can take before him. McKinnon falls to number two and Barkov has stayed steady throughout the year. Linholm is a great looking player as well. I am sure you cannot go wrong with any of them but you have to take the Best one available at the moment and not try to out think yourself. As it stands it's McKinnon, Barkov, Lindholm, Monohan. And I hope they take the one on the top of the list and go from there.

Dagger · 03-31-2013, 02:13 PM

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Not much talk about the other D prospects in this draft.

Other than Jones, are there any guys in the first round that legitimately project to be franchise D-men?

...and can any of them step onto an NHL roster as early as next season?

Darnell Nurse and Nikita Zadorov are slated to go top 10(Nurse higher than Zadorov. Nurse has 1st dman talent, and plays a physical two way game, whilst Zadorov is 6'6 with great skating ability. He's a little more raw but has big potential as well.

CaptainSunshin3 · 03-31-2013, 02:13 PM

I've been doing a lot of reading up and watching videos on Nichushkin and here's my take:
Very big, skilled winger with game breaking ability and great hands. Very, very high ceiling. Ranked 2nd overall by ISS, which is a great indication of his skill. Would be glad to draft him with our pick (as long as he's willing to come over asap and does really want to play in the NHL)

FlamesAddiction · 03-31-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sven Baertschi might have something to say about that.

I hope he does, but until he proves it, this team lacks it.

I think every position is fair game for this team.

Table 5 · 03-31-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Not much talk about the other D prospects in this draft.

Other than Jones, are there any guys in the first round that legitimately project to be franchise D-men?

I'd love to hear more about Darnell Nurse. He's one guy who always seems to be in the Top 10 on lists (sometimes even 5th) yet nobody ever mentions him in conversation.

Ashasx · 03-31-2013, 02:18 PM

I've heard really good things about Rasmus Ristolainen... plus he has the best name in the draft, like Zemgus Girgensons and Sven Baertschi before him.

dammage79 · 03-31-2013, 02:22 PM

From what I have read about Rasmus Risotlainen is that he has a good physical game in front of the net. Good size and is a good puck mover. Already 6'3 and on the younger side of the draft he should go top ten. Would be a steal if he fell to the Flames second first round pick. Or any other pick they may acquire before the deadline or on draft day.

flames_fan_down_under · 03-31-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't think it really matters personally. Our main reason for getting a #1 centre is gone now.

I think this team just lacks a young forward superstar in general.

This is what I agree with completely. Our lack in centre is an issue but we lack genuine scorers, which cannot be understated. The lack of offensive flair on this team is very apparent. Same with the lack of defensive awareness. That's why you draft the best player available regardless of position. I say we take Seth Jones if get the number one overall pick. He is just amazing and would instantly change the look of the Flames.

It would be so amazing if we could somehow get two top ten picks.

dammage79 · 03-31-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't think it really matters personally. Our main reason for getting a #1 centre is gone now.

I think this team just lacks a young forward superstar in general.

So we draft Drouin and have to search yet again for another top line center for our young superstar wingers? I agree Iggy is gone but the center position still needs to be addressed, look at ALL of the top contending teams and tell me who among them does not have a very strong top two centers? Thats right, none of them.

the_only_turek_fan · 03-31-2013, 02:29 PM

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It would be so amazing if we could somehow get two top ten picks.

Its possible.....lets assume the season ended today and we got #3. You could slide down to #4-#6 and get a pick in return and use that pick and/or another pick to move the Pittsburgh #27-30 into the top 10.

Maybe if we get a first from Team XYZ for Bouwmeester, we can swap the XYZ first and the Pittsburgh first for a top 10 pick.

So many moving parts.

Roof-Daddy · 03-31-2013, 02:35 PM

What can we trade to the Jackets, that might be able to pry one of their "bubble" 2013 1st rounders away? (Jackets, Rangers....not Kings)

They are pretty stacked on defense, but they are a low scoring team led by a 38 year old pending UFA (Propsal), and another pending UFA (Letestu).

Certainly they could use one of our many top six wingers no?

I love Glencross, but he's played there before maybe he'd like to go back now that they're looking like they're on the up swing again.

Would love to snag another 1st in this draft, especially if it belongs to a bubble team, and they end up missing the playoffs.

FlamesAddiction · 03-31-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

So we draft Drouin and have to search yet again for another top line center for our young superstar wingers? I agree Iggy is gone but the center position still needs to be addressed, look at ALL of the top contending teams and tell me who among them does not have a very strong top two centers? Thats right, none of them.

You never know what the future holds. Maybe you'll draft the next Brad Richards in the 2nd round.

In general, I don't think it's wise to draft for current needs when most players won't be impact NHLers or key players for a few years after they are drafted.

And to be honest, this team could easily be drafting top 5 for a few seasons and could end up with a centre then.

CaptainSunshin3 · 03-31-2013, 02:39 PM

I think if the players on our board are very close in terms of skill and future projection, you take the center. And if we do end up picking top 5, that will likely be the case. When the BPA is the BPA by a very slim margin over a player that plays a position you value more, you draft the positional guy.

The Original FFIV · 03-31-2013, 03:09 PM

Check out Icarus' post from the prospect forum in the below link (2nd post in) as it references the Red Line Report who divide the top 11 into 3 tiers:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...118999&page=11

Johnny Rotten · 03-31-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Check out Icarus' post from the prospect forum in the below link (2nd post in) as it references the Red Line Report who divide the top 11 into 3 tiers:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...118999&page=11

Don't think it'll happen, buy it'd be great if Jones, MacKinnon, and Drouin make it to Memorial Cup.

Savvy27 · 03-31-2013, 04:56 PM

Has someone managed to find an explanation for why Drouin has separated himself from MacKinnon points wise? Is he simply a better offensive player or are there injuries involved?