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Old 02-05-2013, 11:39 PM   #81
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I agree. Kitchen staff get the shaft. Even in places that have tip pool, you know the servers don't declare it all.

Kitchen work is grueling and you get scapegoated for all the servers mistakes, and miss out on the praise when you do a good job.
The cooks can work as servers , the servers as cooks. Go work for the other side if you think you're not being treated fairly.

10 out of 10 ktichen staff I worked with wouldn't/couldn't handle dealing with the public for any amount of money. Just as I would shoot myself if I had to work all day, standing in one spot in a hot kitchen.

As for praise, it works both ways. Except if the kitchen screws up, the server gets screwed too. The customer doesn't say, "well, my food was burned and took an hour, but here's a little something for you". That money comes out of their pocket, to pay the kitchen, no matter who made the mistake.

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Old 02-05-2013, 11:41 PM   #82
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THIS

dont feel bad for servers making minimum wage. feel bad for the cooks. they get not much more than minimum wage and only get a small percentage of the tipout of a server.

if servers have it so bad, how can they afford to live and work in kits here in vancouver?
Do the cooks commute from Chilliwack?

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:10 AM   #83
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The cooks can work as servers , the servers as cooks. Go work for the other side if you think you're not being treated fairly.

10 out of 10 ktichen staff I worked with wouldn't/couldn't handle dealing with the public for any amount of money. Just as I would shoot myself if I had to work all day, standing in one spot in a hot kitchen.

As for praise, it works both ways. Except if the kitchen screws up, the server gets screwed too. The customer doesn't say, "well, my food was burned and took an hour, but here's a little something for you". That money comes out of their pocket, to pay the kitchen, no matter who made the mistake.
I have done both before I went to university. Being a server is way more cushier than working in the kitchen. Neither is as good as bartending though. 90% of being a server is being good looking and well groomed. I bet if someone did a study, there would be a direct correlation between how much a customer will put up with and how they tip, with how good looking their server is.

But in reality, they all suck. The whole restaurant industry is what made me decide to finally go back to school.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:58 AM   #84
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Same here, did all three, kitchen, server, bartender (restaurant).
Made the most money as a server, bartender was easiest, got the most enjoyment out of cooking/prepping.

It's certainly not true that 10/10 kitchen staff couldn't handle the public, but I'd probably give you 8.5/10 with the. 5 being the guy who can do it part-time, but not full-time.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:16 AM   #85
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To be fair I've done kitchen work as well and while it wasn't as much money, it was definitely more enjoyable. And it wasn't a peasants wage, I was compensated fairly.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:22 AM   #86
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I also did both. Enjoy serving much more than working in the kitchen
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #87
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Well depending on where you are it can also be much more expensive to live in Canada. Calgary is absurdly expensive.
But the comparison of going from $9.75 to $9.05 is much less severe than going from $7.25 to $2.13.
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